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3/26/2009 8:11 PM
 

Ever since the PE version was announced my fear, based mostly on perception and gut feeling due to a lack of facts, is that DNN will become another SugarCRM where the community edition is just a teaser to pull people into the community and most of the powerful features that everybody wants and needs are only available in the paid PE version.

I understand that DNN Corp has to make money - nobody wants to work for free (although I am a little fuzzy on the Corp making money and the core team being volunteers). But I don't want DNN to turn into another SugarCRM either. Since human nature dictates that whatever is putting food on the table gets the attention the only solution I have thought of so far is to ensure the CE version brings in money as well. To that end I think if we were to use the power of the community we might be able to get what we want for very close to the same cost we are getting it for now.  I.E.  If the CE version were the same as PE version in fuctionality but Corp charged $20 per domain name would YOU still be interested????  Please post your votes to this thread.  There would be no transfer available as the overhead for such an accounting nightmare would eat up too much of the revenue.  Just a flat $20 per domain name.  Localhost is free, minor point releases are free, patches / security fixes are free, unlimited child portals, major point releases/upgrades are $20.

The way I see it we are paying for third party modules now and not complaining about it so why not for the core. And $20 is not going to break any wallets or sales quotes.  On the up side $20 from such a large number of sites equals a fairly large pile of money. Which means that the CE version would give the PE version some serious competition for Corp's attention and motivation. And in my opinion that $20 per domain just might save DNN from the deadpool as I have serious doubts about PE being the solution to Corp's revenue woe's.

So what do you think - is DNN 4.9.2 as it stands right now worth $20 per domain??

 

 
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3/27/2009 4:17 AM
 

Remember that the core applications of CE and PE will remain identical. It should be clear from this that every extra functionality that PE might contain over CE will have to be in extensions, not the core. If those extre features are in extensions, that will mean that there will be hooks in the Core to connect the wose new features too. Those hooks would be available to third party extension developers as well. IMHO this will open up extra means of creating extensions for DNN. I can see a future where you could purchase a complete alternate admin interface from a third party (and that third party might even be another open source project...).

DNN Core is open source and will remain to be so in the future. This means that you will never pay for the core application. Although i am not speaking for the DNN corp, this is something that is a rock solid foundation of the future of DNN.


Erik van Ballegoij, Former DNN Corp. Employee and DNN Expert

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3/27/2009 8:01 AM
 

Good point Erik, 

This is my hope how DNN will move forward in the furture and the reason I'm keeping faith with DNN.  If I've got to pay anything, not matter how little, for each domain I create, just the logistics of keeping track of licenses would make the whole thing a nightmare.  If any kind of payment is created for the CE edition then the worst case situation will happen, DNN will fork into another open source branch.

 
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3/27/2009 10:19 AM
 

Well, it wasn't my intent to start yet another PE vs CE thread but it appears to be headed that way. From the views vs. replies ratio on this thread it appears my suggestion may have been a stupid one. But thanks Erik and David for the replies.

@Erik  To me core vs. "enhancements" is really just semantics. For instance, 18 months ago it was announced that the "core" of DNN 5 would have workflow. Now, per the first post in this thread  http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/118/threadid/295827/scope/posts/threadpage/1/Default.aspx  it appears that the "core" will have a stripped down version of workflow with the PE version having full workflow via "enhancements".

@David  I don't understand the difference between keeping track of a license for the core vs. keeping track of licences for third party "enhancements".  Seems to me it would be easier to keep track of one "core" license that covers many "enhancements".

I guess I'll be disappointed and a bit surprised (and apparently a bit naive) to learn that the DNN community is just a bunch of people who want something for nothing and should DNN turn into another SugarCRM these people would just move to another open source platform.

Another danger I see is the fact that the cost for third party "enhancements" have TRIPLED in the past year and a half.  Yes, there are still some third party "enhancements" that are a very good value. But I guess that "enhancement" costs is another thread.

 
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3/27/2009 12:44 PM
 

Leazon wrote
 

I guess I'll be disappointed and a bit surprised (and apparently a bit naive) to learn that the DNN community is just a bunch of people who want something for nothing and should DNN turn into another SugarCRM these people would just move to another open source platform.

I think that's exactly what you'll see, for a significant portion of users at least.  But that's not a bad thing in my opinion.  Yes, I support the individual or hobbyist who needs to keep costs minimal, but the bottom line on all free software is that you really do get what you pay for.  There are many free products out there that are excellent, many of which I use.  But even the excellent ones sometimes lack something I'm willing to pay for.  In every software choice, I'm making a decision to use the product based on the value to me, not whether it's free or not.

Jeff

 
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