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5/9/2006 7:29 PM
 
Hey,

I've done a little playing around with DNN in a local environment, and aside from some skinning errors, am impressed. However, it does seem really slow, but that may have something to do with with the local environment.

Now, I'd like to start testing on an actual web server with some small projects. I already have a leased server running .NET 2.0, SQL 2000 and 30+ web sites (all in classic ASP), but I'm a little concerned that installing DNN will adversely affect the SQL performance of that server. Is that retarded, or a real concern?

I'm not really a tech-savvy guy; I usally know just enough to make something work but become very skittish about making adjustments once something is running well. My big concern is that there be no disruption of sites currently being hosted.

Ideally I'd start fresh with a new dedicated server, but I'm loathe to shell out the $$ for a new SQL 2000 license. I know there are standalone hosting plans, but once I get up and running on DNN I have some projects I need to get into right away so will need this dedicated server environment anyway to make them cost-effective.

Any comments, aside from my obvious psychological issues and brain defects? Sometimes I wonder how I even got into this line of work.

Thanks.
 
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5/10/2006 5:34 PM
 
You can also use SQL Server Express thus bypassing any use of your SQL server.  Although I do not think it would effect your current SQL server, this would isolate DNN and provide the insurance you need on your existing sites.

SQL Server express is free from Microsoft at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/default.aspx

If you go with the "Advanced" package, it will include Full text indexing and Report Services.  Be sure to download the SQL Server manager also (much like enterprise manager but free).

The only limit on SQL Server Express is file size (4 gig per database - unlimited databases) and number of CPUs.  It is a great deal for running DNN.
 
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5/10/2006 5:50 PM
 
I'd heard about SQL Express, but for some reason I thought that it was more limited, interms of the number of databases you can set-up in it, or the number of connections it can accept.

But if it's good for a server running 30+ sites, each with their own database, that is music to my ears.

Or does DNN only use one database for multiple sites?
 
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5/10/2006 7:59 PM
 
wirecreative wrote
I'd heard about SQL Express, but for some reason I thought that it was more limited, interms of the number of databases you can set-up in it, or the number of connections it can accept.

But if it's good for a server running 30+ sites, each with their own database, that is music to my ears.

Or does DNN only use one database for multiple sites?


Here is the comparison chart of the different SQL 2005 servers:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/features/compare-features.mspx

SQL Express is not like the old MSDE 2000 database where it throttled your performace, the new version runs at full power.  As long as the 4 GB database limit and 1 GB memory limit and 1 CPU limit works for you, it is a great FREE solution.  I have a number of DNN sites running on a single database in SQL Express and have not had any problems.  For basic sites, you could probably host hundreds if not thousands of sites in a single 4 GB database.

One not though, if you run a SQL server on the same box as the websites, you might use the management tool (free also) and set the max memory SQL Express can use so that it does not fill up all available memory.  I run mine at 300 megs of RAM limit and it seems to work fine.

While there is a 4 GB limit per database, it does not limit the number of databases you have.  I have about a dozen or so on mine at the moment.

DNN does keep "all" of its portals in a single database (which can be a pain at times), but that is "per" running instance.  You can install DNN multiple times to have a different database for different portals but it will eat more memory that way. 


 
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5/10/2006 9:07 PM
 
Excellent information. Thank you!
 
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