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8/21/2014 1:30 PM
 

I just read the last blog post at http://dnn-connect.org and the earlier post. I have been reading quite a few rhetoric about "the community is left behind", "the community is neglected", "the community is unhappy"..etc.  BUT no examples and clarification is given. What does the community WANT? DNN itself is continuously  evolving and newer versions are coming out at a steady pace. The open source version is a full blown version and stands strong as a full blown CMS. There are thousands of modules and skins. They work both in the free and commercial version. The two versions have the same code base, the same APIs. Users can submit bug reports and they get fixed. 

As a long as I see DNN getting better in terms of performance, feature set, usefulness and all the code is open source, I am happy. SO WHY IS THE COMMUNITY UNHAPPY? Maybe some people should just speak for themselves and not include everyone as "the community". 

I am happy. Why aren't you?

 

 

 

 
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8/21/2014 2:40 PM
 
Great note Tony - There are many other happy DNNizens out there who don't necessarily express so, which is understandable -- Nevertheless, I encourage them to share their experiences and joys with DNN.

Keep such good posts coming, means a lot for those who work with DNN everyday! :)

Ash Prasad
Director of Engineering
DNN Corp.
 
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8/21/2014 10:30 PM
 
Tony,
the product is one side of DNN and for sure the most inportant for users and site owners. However, DNN is still an open source project and the commercial products benefit from all the community efforts on testing and contributing improvements - which is possible a) because of the platform source code provided and b) because of the community spirit of many of the members - some since the beginning of IBuySpy WorkShop (the original name of DotNetNuke.
While DNN Corp is now focusing on its commercial product, it becomes essential for the community to take over responsibilities and activities for the platform - in order to make sure that in the future there will be a great free product, we may rely on.

Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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8/22/2014 12:36 AM
 

Yeah I disagree. Let's get practical. Does it really bother you that the company is using the community's contributions in their commercial product? That's actually great. They make their product better, they sell more copies, they get more revenue, they can spend more on marketing, DNN gets more popular and they can pay their full time software developers who create more features and make DNN community or commercial a better product. So this makes a full circle which benefits EVERYONE at the end. You are using a free open source product which keeps getting better and you don't have to pay a penny for it. Isn't that Redhat's business model with Linux? I don't see people complaining over there.

I would rather have a commercial entity behind DNN which has a real vested interest in improving the product otherwise they can't exist. We are all benefiting from their work. I would rather have full time paid developers working on it than depend on some aspirations of some people who have some 'ideal' ideas. Contributors who will work on DNN when they feel like it or when they have some free time. I am sure these people have full time jobs and families to feed. I am thankful for their contributions but I would rather not put DNN's fate in their hands.

DNN is 12 years old and some people are still worried that DNN might not have the future. Let's worry about this when DNN becomes stale or taken away from us. Why worry all the time about a product which has been getting better all these years? The commercial version is a few years old now. What bad things happened from this and making anyone unhappy?

"While DNN Corp is now focusing on its commercial product". What is the negative aspect of this if their code is merged into the open source DNN which everyone is benefiting from for free? 

I like facts and examples. Let's see what happened to some open source modules when "the community" is taking over. According to Codeplex, DotNetNuke Forums last release date was July 20, 2011. Nice. That's over 3 years old. Active Forum on Github has been quiet for a few months now. Several reported issues didn't get any answer. There are many other core modules that haven't been updated for several months. That tell me the developers  are not working on them consistently.

So what happens is that we get excited at the beginning. We have big plans and ideas and we promise the world. Then over time, people start to drop off, get lazy, lose interest and things start to die off. Money is the best incentive and that's why I want the DNN corp to be the steward for DNN. I like the rate of progress that's going on and I would go with than that the promises of some volunteers who I believe can't sustain working on DNN all the time for years.. and rightfully and understandably so. It's not realistic to expect too much from them.

 

 
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8/22/2014 8:58 AM
 

I've been using DNN since 2005 and I love it.  The improvements over time have been good in terms of stability and performance.  Some things, like the "Social" additions around DNN 6.2 were lost on me, but on the whole, it's been a great ride.

What does concern me is the lack of cohesive documentation.  When I casually look at the WordPress.org site I cringe at how "together" they look.  And the Wordpress Ecosystem seems to be generation a lot more themes and extensions, but that's another story.

 I understand that nobody really wants to write documentation, but the Wiki is embarrassing.

I also find other aspects of the "new" DNN Website to be an impediment.  One of the strengths of DNN was always a healthy and active set of Forums.  Now with the addition of "The Community Exchange" and "Community Voice"  vital information about how to solve problems is fragmented into three different places.  And searching in the new resources is difficult.

I'm hanging in there, because the DNN Platform is getting better.

I love DNN, in spite of itself sometimes. 

 
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