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8/30/2006 11:48 PM
 
I'm new to the DNN community, but an experienced ASP.Net C# developer. At first glance the product seemed perfect for my needs. A great CMS with the support of a large open source community and many enterprise features. For some of my clients this seemed like a great way to offer them an application that did what they wanted w/o rebuilding the wheel. Best of all I could spend more time billing for labor where its truly needed.

Now here’s the rub. I've spent the last week stepping through code and trying to find just a little information on basic configuration and skinning. The DNN resources on this site are extremely light on details, and by far too brief for any one serious about using this as a development framework. I next hit the forums, a great reference with tons of insight. However I found they're not great for entry users with such broad questions like mine... Posts I found googling seem to state that many folks new to DNN have similar feelings.

Of course I next took my search for tutorials and articles to Google. After searching using every combination of keywords I could think off and exhausting the resource links on DNN I found my self-hitting roadblock after roadblock. It seems like no one is providing any tutorials or articles for free. Everything is at a price. The few sites that do offer free content offer boilerplate content available anywhere.

I understand that everyone needs to make cash, but I'm so surprised at the lack of available tutorials for a product with such a large subscriber base. In my search I’ve found three companies selling guides a skinning toolkit and a pay for subscription based web site.

Other than that almost nada, zip. Now, like I said I’m all for making money, but I’m new to the product and not ready to dump a few hundred into PDF guides (that I can’t find 3rd party reviews for) if I can barley get the product installed. I also have some lofty aspirations here. I have some ActiveDirectory code (custom for a client because of disaster rollover abilities built in) I want to integrate as an Http Module, and that’s the smaller block of code.

Any way, sorry for the rant, but I’m curious of its just me? If not how did you get started and where can I get into the guts of this application with out spending the next month dissecting source code?

P.S. I just hit Amazon.com and put in an order for Wrox's DNN book. Hopefully this answers my basic questions and at least points me in the right direction. Guess we’ll see!
 
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8/31/2006 11:30 AM
 

jmperry,

I agree that it takes some searching to find the answers to questions about DNN.  The people here on the forums are very knowledgeable, helpful and patient.  Many of us here can make a living helping people implement DNN sites primarily because it is not simplistic.  People are willing to pay for the effort we extend to find these answers.  Those people understand that they get value from us so they are willing to pay because it is worth it for them to not have to go thru the struggle to learn.  Their time is better spent doing their core competences.  The same should be true for you.  It is valuable to you to have someone else do some of the struggle.  All a $200 guide has to do is save you a few hours of time and it will be worth the $200.  It doesn't have to have all the answers you will ever seek.  Try spending less time looking at the cost and more looking at the value.  If I buy a $50 book and it saves me an hour, it has paid for itself.  It doesn't have to be the best book, it doesn't even have to be a good book, it just has to bring a little value.  Even if a $200 guide only helps you learn the DNN terminology it will be worth it.  It will help you better search for questions here and understand the answers people give.  It could also be worth thousands in just making you look smarter to your customers. 

When I started looking into DNN it bought “Professional DotNetNuke ASP.net Portals”.  I think it cost about $40.  It wasn’t a very good book for beginners and I don’t feel it explained things very well.  But it helped me thru my first installation and I have never experienced many of the problems I hear people here having.  I would guess that it saved me at the very least 10 hours.  I can, under the right circumstances, bill myself out at $100/hr.  So that book may have easily been worth 10 times the $40.   When you start looking at your cash flow sometimes a $500 thing is hard to pay for, but you need to look at the value. 

I just spent about 15 minutes writing this and gave you $25 worth of my time.  It was worth it to me because it again reminds me to consider spending money when I need help.  Maybe I should buy a module rather than create one.  I hope it will help you look at the value and it will probably save you at least $25 in antacids to help you with the stress over everything not being free.  Some things relating to DNN are not free, but many times the value they bring makes them a no-brainer. 

And, if you need some help to display some database information in DNN check out my simple modules.  Heck, just looking and playing around with them may give you ideas and that can be worth the small amout they cost. 

Maybe I should charge more

mj

 


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8/31/2006 11:51 AM
 
Check out DNN Creative Magazine. I think it's $44USD per year. Honestly, if the guy who is doing that site is just looking to make money, he could charge a lot more for it.

Chris
 
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