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10/26/2006 4:29 PM
 

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WARNING - This might be seen as a controversial posting, my intention is not to rattle cages, but to find out exactly what is going on at the moment. Before I start I just want to say this is in no way intended to degrade the excellent work being done by the DNN team, I am a big fan. Full stop. OK then, deep breath....

I've been observing Gemini recently, and I don't see much progress fixing bugs. Charles (my main man!) seems to have disappeared altogether (I know he's been to the UK recently, and I'm sure he deserves a holiday).

Even so, there are some real nasty bugs being logged (too many by me I know), and some essential enhancements and tasks that need implemented.

Now I realise a lot of the work is voluntary and resources are very limited, but I believe some members of staff are paid full time according to the excellent DNN book that came out a few months ago.

My question is this. Does DNN Corp have a 100% full time bug fixing person working on calls logged in Gemini? esp. for the framework? If not why not? (can you not afford it?). I realise other people fix the bugs as well (voluntary), and thank you to all of them, but I am beginning to think something needs to be done to get Gemini moving again. What is to be done?

Now before anybody says to me, “why don't I lend a hand?”, well my programming skills are probably aren't up to scratch yet. I'm working on this. Secondly I have my own sites to look after, thirdly I am far too busy logging calls in Gemini :) and fourthly yes I will donate money to DNN as soon as I get my first couple of sales, or make any money via the DNN application.

Gemini just seems like a black hole at the moment, maybe this is just my wrong perception. This was not the case between the period of development between 4.3.4 and 4.3.5, quite the oppersite. So what's happened?

Sorry but I always think it is always better to be frank about such matters. I suspect a lot of the team are working their a*se off, but when can we some progress with bug fixing/tasks/enhancements?

I'd very much appreciate any constructive comments (digging my bunker now :).

Many Thanks - really!

Alex



Alex Shirley


 
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10/31/2006 5:39 AM
 

I'm very surprised indeed that nobody has replied to this. Worrying.

Cheers

Alex



Alex Shirley


 
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10/31/2006 8:20 AM
 
It wasn't too long ago that we had several releases in a very short time period.  I think we went from 4.0.3 to 4.3.5 (with 3+ releases or so in between) in a space of months.  Speaking as a developer, that many releases in that short a timeframe was likely very difficult on the team.  That is a lot to expect from a paid team, and even more so from a mostly volunteer one. 

Personally speaking I would like to see a fixed release schedule (I think this model offers many benefits for software development).  Maybe every 4 months.  1 month for sleep and planning,  2 months of dev, 1 month of QA and then out the door.   Short iterations are the key.  What gets done gets shipped, what does not is prioritized for the next release.  Features too large to fit into the schedule are refactored into functions that do.
 
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10/31/2006 2:40 PM
 
The rappid release schedule was neccesarry to fix some security issues and heavy bugs.

This the last I heard (based on alot of speculation and inet gossip)

4.3.6 was going to get released soon
they found something funny and now MS QA is having a look at it
In the (recent) past, new versions of modules meant new DNN versions are comming. There's been 1 new module last week.

For me 4.3.5 feels stable enough to host some heavy sites


The fixed release schedule should be good for planning, but we all know "The first casualty of war is your plan", and programming sometimes feels alot like war. So planning is moot. Release your software when the current set of requirements is fullfilled, not when a mark on a calander says your done.


I am subscribed to the email notifications of the core project in gemini. Its been only a week sindce the last progress update, no need to panic yet.

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10/31/2006 3:01 PM
 

In general: it is a stated policy of DNN, to try to release a new version every 6-8 weeks, but as 3.3.2 to 3.3.5 demonstrated, this is an average period, depending on the size of enhancements and urgent needs - e.g. security issues.

Regarding 3.3.6: There have been issue found, that need further investigation, therefore it has not been released to beta testers yet.

Release schedule of DNN is completely separated from module releases. Modules are now undergoing a release process to ensure high stability and documentation. Current policy is to include latest install version of all stable modules in install and source package.


Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

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