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11/15/2007 10:33 AM
 

DNN is evolving into a great framework but documentation for developers is sometimes hard to find.

Arguably the most important feature for promoting the growth of DNN among developers is the ability to search the forums.

1)  Search in ExtendIt just about always times out, making it not usable.

2) The search is primitive in show stopping ways.  For example if one wants to search for two terms that may not occur contiguously there seems to be no way to do this, e.g.  'programmatic' and 'module'.

3) There is no way to easily search in title only, but see the following.

4) If one wants to search title only the general search is used, but then it is not sticky and it is necessary to click several times to check the particular forum for the search.

I believe improved forum search should be the highest priority.

 
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11/15/2007 7:31 PM
 

Hi,

 

You found the Dev Doc by http://docs.dnnforums.com/   and the SQL Doc by http://sql.dnnforums.com/  

 

Regards

Matthias

 
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11/18/2007 4:47 PM
 

rnu wrote

DNN is evolving into a great framework but documentation for developers is sometimes hard to find.

Arguably the most important feature for promoting the growth of DNN among developers is the ability to search the forums.

1)  Search in ExtendIt just about always times out, making it not usable.

2) The search is primitive in show stopping ways.  For example if one wants to search for two terms that may not occur contiguously there seems to be no way to do this, e.g.  'programmatic' and 'module'.

3) There is no way to easily search in title only, but see the following.

4) If one wants to search title only the general search is used, but then it is not sticky and it is necessary to click several times to check the particular forum for the search.

I believe improved forum search should be the highest priority.

I am not saying it doesn't happen for you, but is this post the upgrade here?

1 - Search was altered and I just tried several searches across that forum and had no issues getting results quickly w/out timeouts.

2 - I will review.

3 - You can easily search by title only now and in previous versions.

4 - I have no idea what you are talking about here.


Chris Paterra

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12/4/2007 12:51 PM
 

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

3. I know one can search title but it is extremely cumbersome for multiple searches with multiple page refreshes.

4. You can't search titles from the top of a forum but must click the spy glass.  Then you need to find your forum again, that you were just in, in the list of forums below.  Finally, after executing your search on the title you quite often want to search again, but your previous selection is lost, not sticky.  You must once again find the forum in the list and check it prior to the next search.

And the searches have two more general problems which we find often debilitating:

A. They take a long time to come back, at least on the dotnetnuke site.

B. The precision seems fine but the recall is very low.  It appears to us as if a query such as <programmatic module> is executed internally by the forum search as if it were entered "programmatic module", in other words it only returns items in the case that the query words occur contiguously, i.e. next to each other in the searched text.  This is contrary to industry expectations for search, and undermines the value of the search to some considerable extent.  There are many documents of interest in which the terms 'programmatic' and 'module' occur, but not next to each other.

The DotNetNuke endeavor is wonderful but the documentation is somewhat limited.  I am sure many developers depend on the forums.  If this is true the progress of DotNetNuke itself could be much accelerated if the forum search was not so limited.

 

Thanks for listening.

 
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