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4/10/2007 2:00 PM
 

Hello,
(specs = windows 2003 server .net 1.1 and 2.0 installed ofcourse, sql server 2000)
* I have three DNN websites currently up and running for a few years now, running DNN 3.1.1 (asp.net 1.1) All is fine.
* I have another install of DNN that that is using DNN 4.4.1 with Five sites (host and 4 portal sites) All is fine.

Question:
I want to move the three DNN 3.1.1 sites "into" the single 4.4.1 site.
Note* the DNN 3.1.1 sites are working fine with many users. The DNN 4.4.1 site has 4 "portals" with many users per portal.(many being about 25 users per site/portal)
How do I move the three DNN 3.1.1 (all separate code bases and dbs)  sites into the 4.4.1 site (single db and code base).
Do I upgrade each of the 3.1.1 sites to a more recent version as close to 4.4.1 as possible, then export the site as a template? then import that template to 4.4.1? what about the USERS? of those 3.1.1 sites? Their logins/passwords? Will they be lost? The permissions? Roles?
  Or am I stuck with porting it all over manually by recreating a basic site and copy and past the text in all modules/to each new page/module via the GUI? .....And then tell the users to recreate their accounts? .....Register again? Q@#$@#!@#$!

 

 
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4/11/2007 11:19 AM
 

Here is my suggestion it should work in theory but I haven't tried it yet. If you have access to a development server try there first.

Configure things so only you can access the 3.1.1 sites (prevents any changes to the DB other than you). If you have access to the IIS config you could add a 'secret' portal alias and configure each IIS site to only respond to this alias using host headers.

Back up both the source and target databases so you can put things back if things go kaput

Update the 3.1.1 sites to 4.4.1 so all are working on the same version. And make sure they are working at the new version.

Make sure the target install has all the required modules installed.

If the sites to be exported are using 'host' skins make sure these are installed on the target install.

Export the newly minted 4.4.1 sites including the content. (note If you have any modules that don't support exporting/importing then these won't be in the package)

Export the users from each site using something like Bulk Reg (http://tinyurl.com/3a4qqf links to Snowcovered)

Import the site into the target 4.4.1 install

Import the users into the newly created site.

Cross fingers Take deep breath and check how things went.  At worst you should have at least the framework of of the sites moved over so it will reduce the time required to manually recreate them if necessary.

Post back here on how you go then others (and me!) know if the above will work.

HTH

Antony

 
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4/11/2007 1:04 PM
 

Thanks Tony. All this is great info.

Question 1: Is there a "Free" method of moving user accounts into a different 4.4.1 DNN code base install ? Moving the portals seems like it should work fine. Everything is pretty vanilla, no custom code or modules (only core modules). But moving the Users would be nice to do for Free :)  If anyone even knows of a SQL script? or custom script or snippets.

Also, this is my server, I have full control. So Admin/connectivity is not an issue if that is in question.

Question 2:      What is the best practice to move from 3.1.1 to 4.4.1, meaning can I just do ONE jump (upgraded) from 3.1.1 to 4.4.1?  or does anyone know of issues with this and maybe its best to actually go upgrade to every version inbetween for some reason until I get to 4.4.1  (yes, more steps, but if its better I would do it). It theory, I know I should be able to just do the one jump, but not sure....

 

 

 
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4/11/2007 3:27 PM
 

Regarding Q2 - Yes you can go from 3.1.1 to 4.4.1 I have just done it with only minor issues and they are with 3rd party modules.  Look in the documentation that takes you though the steps.  Pay particlar attention to the details regarding the web.config and Back up everything before you start.

 
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