That's a pretty simplistic view Jeff. I'm not a web designer other than as an occasional hobby (I do maybe 4 or 5 skins in a year). I work 8 hours a day (quite often more than eight hours), spent three or four evenings with my son training, spend countless hours programming/bug fixing/etc. on the AD project, and then there's my wife, two daughters, and assorted pets to spend time with. I would love to "read up on how to do it properly" but the simple fact is that unless it's your livelihood or you have no life that's not possible. I've spent days trying to figure out how to get something to work properly using CSS/Divs/Spans/etc that I could have done in an hour using a table with a class assigned to it. And I've yet to find anywhere where you can get away with a non-fixed width display that uses graphics (not colors) just using Divs/CSS that doesn't get borked up at some point. I looked at Lance's yahoo suggestion and it would work fine as long as I didn't try to use graphics.

Going full css/xhtml requires the same skills as an experienced programmer imho. Yeah you can do a "Hello World" program in the first hour (or less) of learning how to program and you can do a simple tableless layout with little training but if you want to get into anything fancy it takes the same amount of training/time as it does to do anything fancy with a program.

Also, for those complaining about module developers using tables. A lot of the time the programmer has no say in how the control is rendered as it's done by the .NET framework. A datagrid returns a table and that's it (though it may have changed in VS2008).

I don't see anything in there that I don't disagree with and it's what I would fully expect from a web professional however not everyone who does skins is a web professional. I'm not, at least in the design aspect of it. 

I do take exception to the line "lazy, ignorant, incompetent people" though as I'm far from any of the three.

Hey Joseph, I was being political...

I wrote "at Least"...

Also we where talking about tables vs divs for basic layout, not menus, headings etc...