Thanks Sebastian, unfortunatley i can not find any reference to this in the portals css, and now have spent weeks just trying to remove a  pxl padding that has now got the better of me, the only thing i can see that might do it is if i alter the User defined table.ascx file before install to 0px then re load the entire module to the system but being very new at this, i will now just out source the work and pay to have it done.

I do appreciate your help, and can only compliment this module as it is fantastic,  even if it is testing me on something simple.

Pete