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1/21/2009 1:04 PM
 

I want to thank everyone who participates in building DotNetNuke including the commercial module and skin vendors that contribute to the viability of my little business.  My gratitude has been shown by contributing financially to DotNetNuke and by following license agreements from vendors.

As a supporter, I was able to test the release candidates for DNN5 and I did find some issues.  I regretfully did not participate in Gemini, however I did see others posting the same issues as me.  I tested DNN5 to make sure my favourite modules were compatible and made comments to the module vendors when issues were found.

When DNN5 went live, I downloaded it and proceded to test it.  I found immediately that the FCK editor threw an error when going to the image or link editor.  I also discovered that I could not install legacy skins.  The only way to get legacy skins to install is to unpack them and place them in the Portal/Skins and Portal/Containers folders.  When you change a skin on a portal you have to press the Apply link twice.  These are issues that are easy to discover by even the most casual user.

Resolutions to these problem were available.  The FCK editor issue requires the moving of a dll.  The skin issues were workable. We are now a month into waiting for 5.01 and I am happy to wait as I am confident there is a good reason for the delay and that the next realease will have many issues corrected.

I am not using DNN5 at all right now, but what concerns me is the image of the project in general.  If I was new to DNN, the first thing I would do is download and install DNN5.  After install, I would try to make a page or blog post and would be presented with an error when adding an image.  At this point, I would consider quitting forever.  I would know nothing about the issues that prevent it from being fully functional.  I would not know to go to Gemini to look for solutions and if I did, Gemini is a developers tool and is confusing to use. 

There is room to improve communications.  Perhaps all that is needed is a blog post that lists the major issues and the current workarounds.  Having this information in one place easily found upon download would go a long way to making DotNetNuke the world leader that it deserves to be.

Consider this an offer to help.  I cannot code, I do not have that talent, but I am a hell of a good DotNetNuke user and I would be willing to spend some time in the communications department.

 
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1/21/2009 3:39 PM
 

I can only respond on Gemini:

Gemini is certainly clunky I admit (and a source of endless annoyances day after day, I have lost hair believe me using it), and there are instructions on the home page (I must get around to revising the text, and I'm now in the position to be able to do it so no excuses there).

I did this blog about how to follow issues which I keep quoting time and again to get around Gemini's "little" issues:

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/825/EntryId/1589/How-to-follow-DNN-outstanding-issues-within-the-Gemini-project-tracker.aspx

I would argue that Gemini is not just a developers tool, and we often (not always) make comments on how to fix things for general users where apt (within time constraints) so we can get them to refer back to the Gemini when needed in the forums. So please do not ignore it (all I can do to convince you).



Alex Shirley


 
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1/21/2009 4:19 PM
 

Mike Cox wrote

When DNN5 went live, I downloaded it and proceded to test it.  I found immediately that the FCK editor threw an error when going to the image or link editor.  I also discovered that I could not install legacy skins.  The only way to get legacy skins to install is to unpack them and place them in the Portal/Skins and Portal/Containers folders.  When you change a skin on a portal you have to press the Apply link twice.  These are issues that are easy to discover by even the most casual user.

Mike - while I understand your frustrations - just to correct a few of your comments.

FCKEditor - this was only a problem with the Install Package (the Source was correct and rebuilding the source solution would also solve the issue)

Legacy Skins - there were two issues with legacy skins -

  1. legacy skins did not install correctly if they are dropped in the Install fodler before installation of DNN
  2. legacy packages that contain Skins.zip and/or Containers.zip - if the embedded zips were not named exactly as shown (inlcuding case).  Skins not packaged this way or skin packages where the embedded zips have the correct "casing" work fine

5.0.1 is nearing a state where we could release - over 80 bugs (most minor, but a few major ones) have been fixed.


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1/22/2009 9:03 AM
 

Thanks for clarifing the issues with skins and FCKEditor.  I never tried the source installation, I nearly always go with the upgrade and I never saw where this was mentioned.  I also never saw a solution to the installation of skins nor was I ever able to install a single skin or a skin pack.   I will follow gemini more closely and I will post problems as I see them. 

Truth be told, I can install skins easily by simply moving the folders into the /portal/skins folder, it is just my customers that cannot but I have never had a customer install a skin.  I can also move the FCK's dll when needed and it only takes a minute.  It is just my thought that communicating these issues to people could be greatly improved.

 
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1/22/2009 9:10 AM
 

Mike I think you had an interesting post and it was politely written.
I've let it be known that you are willing to help out in the DNN core team forum, and posted this URL there, not much more I can do than that.

Many thanks...



Alex Shirley


 
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