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1/29/2009 2:20 PM
 

Salama wrote

Just this week I posted about the lack of more contributions from the DNN community. There are tons of commercial skins. You can wade through pages and pages of skin listings at snowcovered. Yet DNN comes with just two crude skins. Why aren't some commercial skin vendors giving some quality free skins to be packaged with DNN? That's free advertising for them.

I would submit that this is not the fault of the commercial skin vendors. It is the fault of DNN - after you have been in the DNN "community" for awhile you learn that while DNN is an excellent open source project that you will really like - it is a closed community. Want an example?  DNN comes with a core module called Surveys - do you see it in use anywhere on DNN.com?  Have you EVER seen it in use on DNN.com?  Oh, but we can dream - here are a couple of survey's I'd love to see on DNN.com:

  1. Should we have skin contests (like we used to do) with the winner being included in the core?
  2. Should DNN.com change to a forums module that actually works?
  3. Should DNN.com change the way forums are moderated?
  4. Should DNN.com add X forum folders?

Can you add to the list??? 

Greg

 
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1/29/2009 4:00 PM
 

"Should we have skin contests (like we used to do) with the winner being included in the core?"

We will, as announced at open force US, but I don't think the winner will be included in the release but it will be available for download.

 
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1/29/2009 5:26 PM
 

Salama wrote

 There's no direct relationship between valid xhtml and the way a site looks. I can create a cool looking page with tables and little css and I can create a crappy looking page with tight css and valid xhtml. I can create two web pages which look exactly the same and one is using tables and one is using css only.

Kind of - but when you design from a valid xhtml/css/tableless method you think differently to how you think when you (years ago) designed pages using tables. The page will end up looking different - you can spot a css layout from a table layout without looking at the source.

Sure - you can get 2 pages looking the same using either method but the fact is you don't. It's just a different approach that you use when you design using the css approach.

And it's that approach that I think developers need to be aware of - minimal, valid code output and leave it to your css to do the styling.

You don't need tables and all those extra divs..

A seperate div for each corner of a box? That's really nasty coding..

Not wanting to sound too harsh on DNN though - it's a quality bit of kit and I love the way it allows you to drop modules in and the inline editing is awsome. I just wish the front end was a bit better.

 
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1/29/2009 11:11 PM
 

That's a nice angle on it.

 

John Loydall wrote

 Salama wrote

 There's no direct relationship between valid xhtml and the way a site looks. I can create a cool looking page with tables and little css and I can create a crappy looking page with tight css and valid xhtml. I can create two web pages which look exactly the same and one is using tables and one is using css only.

 

Kind of - but when you design from a valid xhtml/css/tableless method you think differently to how you think when you (years ago) designed pages using tables. The page will end up looking different - you can spot a css layout from a table layout without looking at the source.

Sure - you can get 2 pages looking the same using either method but the fact is you don't. It's just a different approach that you use when you design using the css approach.

And it's that approach that I think developers need to be aware of - minimal, valid code output and leave it to your css to do the styling.

You don't need tables and all those extra divs..

A seperate div for each corner of a box? That's really nasty coding..

Not wanting to sound too harsh on DNN though - it's a quality bit of kit and I love the way it allows you to drop modules in and the inline editing is awsome. I just wish the front end was a bit better.

 
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1/29/2009 11:51 PM
 

John Loydall wrote

you can spot a css layout from a table layout without looking at the source.

How is that? A page is made out of layout, text, color and images. There's nothing visually which indicates if css or tables was used.

 
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