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12/20/2012 4:57 PM
 
@DDN Corp - Why not a lite version of pro ?
$2K a year is outside the budgets of many but cutting that in half and removing the DNN Corp support would be a sellable proposition for many of my clients.
Those of us working with small organisations and budgets can then get on and not have to worry about disruptive and extra work.

Ian

 I was having this discussion on another thread. So I added it to the Community Voice. Please vote it up.

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12/20/2012 5:10 PM
 

Done x2


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12/20/2012 5:42 PM
 

Hi Guys

A couple of things to cover here.

Firstly - with the Professional Product pricing - it's not my department at all as far as DotNetNuke, but I know from first hand experience that establishing a price for software is an extremely difficult process.  The Url Master module has always been one of the more expensive modules and as such I heard many complaints over the years that it was too expensive.   So it's always going to be tough to set a price, and no price set (even free) is going to suit all customers.   

Secondly - with the rolling up of improved Url functionality into the DotNetNuke core it is my hope that many of the people who purchased the Url Master module will no longer need any Url solution, because the core offering will be that much better.  I know from seeing many customer installs how many people were only using the basic features of the module, and the basic features will be there in every edition of DotNetNuke.  The ability to set the Url for a DNN page will finally be part of the core offering, as it probably should have been several versions back.  These are the sorts of things that everyone will get, and that will make a lot of difference to a lot of people.  I've spent years of my life working at making the Url experience on DotNetNuke better for many people - I published free and commercial versions of Url rewriters - and I'm certainly not going to abandon those goals now that I'm inside the Citadel gates, so to speak.  The platform will get better Urls as soon as I can make that happen.

As far as DNN taking top modules off the market - it's a pretty rare event, and as Shaun alluded to in his blog, took a lot of perseverance on my part to seeing it through.  This is because the company of a whole is acutely aware of the importance of the third-party ecosystem.  It's also a reflection of the fact that DNN now has a very strong engineering team, and they can produce these types of solutions themselves easily if need be - it's just a matter of priorities. The Url module was something that should have been part of the core, whereas personally (and I can't speak for the executive team) I don't see any encroachment on the myriad of content modules that are currently available.

I certainly understand some of the doubt and uncertainty that gets created with an announcement like this, but I'm positive that this is going to work out well for everyone in the long run.  A lot of time has been spent finessing the finer points and thinking these things through, and I'm happy with the balance that was achieved as an outcome.  Certainly I would prefer to be Father Christmas and just announce that something that formerly cost money would now be free, but that just couldn't be the case.

 
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12/20/2012 6:13 PM
 
Hi Bruce

I take all your points and those from Shaun and others.
I have no problem with your or DNNs decision. I am sure that this was done with great consideration.
Your support and product has always been top quality.  I wish you well with this.

My big (new) problem is that the 3 clients who are 60% of my business all use URL master and all have published (on paper) links to pages without the .aspx suffix. Actually none of them care too much about SEO they just wanted simple urls.

As I understand it as soon as I upgrade these sites to 7.x with added iFinity I have an issue?
These sites are not on dedicated servers so I cannot do wildcard stuff with IIS.

I do realise that I am just selfishly moaning about the impact this will make on me and seem to disregarding the business strategic issues from yours and DNN's perspective.

Regardless:
My clients are still priced out of the Pro version.

There are no high quality replacements of modules taken from the marketplace by DNN acquisitions.

Ian

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12/20/2012 6:32 PM
 
Ian Marlow wrote:
My big (new) problem is that the 3 clients who are 60% of my business all use URL master and all have published (on paper) links to pages without the .aspx suffix. Actually none of them care too much about SEO they just wanted simple urls.

As I understand it as soon as I upgrade these sites to 7.x with added iFinity I have an issue?
These sites are not on dedicated servers so I cannot do wildcard stuff with IIS.

Currently the plan is that DNN 7.1 will support extensionless Urls, which is something that DNN 7 cannot do at the moment.  You will not need direct IIS access in order to do this, as long as you're on ASP.NET 4.0 (which you need to, to run DNN 7 anyway).  It can all be managed within the web.config.

The existing iFinity software will continue to be compatible with DNN 7, there is already a DNN 7 compatible version out (Url Master 2.7) and, as the module has a perpetual licence, you can still buy now and continue to use the current Url Master module.  The new changes will not break the Url Master because it runs alongside the existing Url functionality of DNN.

 
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