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8/23/2013 4:49 AM
 
Chris Onyak wrote:
Or perhaps the solution is to offer import and export of the data with the open source forum modules in the first release.  That way you always have a way out.

 

Since your module will contain more features than the open ones the customers will still be left out in the cold hanging when you switch it off. The system is both the data and the code. But, looking at your website I think you are close to solution already. Subscription based access with source code. If there is a clause stating that the code will be relicensed to a BSD-compatible license when the commercial offering ceases, that would be good enough for me. 

Maybe this could be a kickstarter project to get funds upfront? 

 
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8/23/2013 5:35 AM
 

There is a project running for Active Forums - but it's in bad need of developers to assist. I have been speaking with Seth Folickman regarding the project so if you want to know more http://www.activeforums.org would be the place to go.  I guess from a commercial perspective you could provide some add ons which people could pay for to make it viable.  It's hard because there is really no way anyone now knows this is a community project.  It's lost in the noise.

Fortunately it does appear there are some interested people in making things happen. I think perhaps an external community site off the dnn mothership might be the way to go whereby community people can in fact make things happen because it's so insignificant here.

I'm happy to work with with others and have some ideas - perhaps this is just an opportunity we're not taking advantage of!

 Nina


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8/23/2013 11:07 AM
 

Couple of quick responses (again - all my personal opinion, and quick as this is my lunch break, sorry to put them all in one post but I don't have time to respond to each prior post).  I'm enjoying many peoples points, especially from passionate longtime users - I had an old boss who said to love your complaining customers, they're how you get better - the customer who love you wont tell you the hard truths and you don't know what the silent ones are up to.

1. As has been pointed out the dnnsoftware.com site is evolving, so expect changes - however we have to prioritise and at the minute doing something such as getting the forge back online has a higher priority than adding links - I've had equally as many complaints that the forge is not there as that the forums are hard to find - the difference is that forums are there, but forge is not, so adding additional links is a lower priority at the minute (though there is a lot of updates coming and as I'm not on that team I don't know what many of them are so I could be wrong on this)

2. Whilst forums are harder to find, the community exchange has a prominent link and it is seeing a lot more traffic, which is many ways is an improvement e.g. it searches for related questions as you type a question so leads to a lot less duplicate posts for "known" issues, and the scoring system allows people to identify as experts.

3. As for leading experts being employed by DNN Corp, this is a standard practice for any OSS project with a commercial end - these people have long been acknowledged as experts, and generally speaking do much of their work in their free time. As such they're likely to be dedicated, hardworking and hit the ground running - and there is nothing stopping them from continuing their free contributions (in fact some of it such as community exchange is done on paid time). It's also naïve (and scaremongering) to suggest that DNN Corp are plucking all these people out of the community, in many cases they've approached looking for work or applied for one of the public vacancies we advertise from time to time on the site/linkedin etc. Note: I appreciate as a community member that was employed, my opinions may be skewed, but I like to think of my community time as having been a very long job interview, and the job as reward, and I think that rewarding those who gave their time and effort for free is a good policy (that said, beyond the founders there are only a few ex coreteam/mvp's working for DNN Corp - and most of us are on the Platform team so we do what we did before, except that instead of a few hours at nights and weekends we do 40+ hours a week now)

4. In answer to the question of the ecosystem growth, I can only point to the recently reformed "Plaform" team - it contains such alumni as Charles, Shaun, Joe Brinkman, Erik van Ballegoij as well as others (and me) as a display of how important the Platform is seen (i.e. all the longest, most experienced, most community aware people in the company) - I can already see a ramp up in bugfixing, expect to see an increase in enhancements and I know there are interesting plans for broader community initiatives.

5. domain name - i believe that dnn.com was not economically viable, so this was a good compromise as we wanted to retain the commonly used "dnn" moniker so as to not cause problems with 3rd party extensions/companies etc. (Shaun covers this at length at http://www.dnnsoftware.com/community-... )

Finally, we say it over and over again, and indeed I've already said it in this post (so I'll cut-and-paste what I said in an earlier response), but the DNN Platform (i.e. what was called CE/community edition) is the platform on which everything commercial flows - without a strong, solid, ever improving free offering the commercial offering would not be anywhere near as successful. Everyone in the company from Navin on down feels this strongly, and it's backed up by the customer interviews and sales figures. Anyway, lunchtime is over, so heres my earlier response:

As a company  we're all very well aware that the DNN Platform (or what was called CE) is our major selling point - the majority of our customers experience DNN via it first, and many sales come from people who have used it and grown to such an extent that they want to give us money to provide support/indemnity etc. -to many of these people the Evoq products are a nice, added bonus -if the DNN Platform wasn't maintained and enhanced we would entirely lose that channel and over time the size of the company would reduce (probably drastically)


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8/23/2013 12:33 PM
 

This is an outstanding thread.  It shows how much the community is behind DNN and how it will remain a powerful asset in the global tech world. 

With the elites heading the "platform" I have no doubts future releases will be of extreme value.  If for any reason they drop the ball, I'm sure the community will pick it up and carry it for them after seeing how people have reacted in this thread.

I never doubted the future "ability" of DNN.  My only concern was that newcomers were cut off and we all agree that cutting off the growth of the community is a bad idea for the core of the community.  A mistake or a risk, either way it will be corrected(??). 



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8/23/2013 4:08 PM
 
Activeforums.org is the backup plan for https://activeforums.codeplex.com/. Everyone should use https://activeforums.codeplex.com/ instead of running in every direction. This will only distribute users and developers. Users and Developers will have to monitor both sites, which is such a waste of everybody's time.

Is everyone happy that we have to monitor Forums/QandA/Community Blogs/Official Blogs here?

Chris Onyak,

If you really want to help, please join the developers at https://activeforums.codeplex.com/ help them and everyone. Source code is available https://activeforums.codeplex.com/. When you help you will learn a lot about AF code and you can then create commercial addons for ActiveForum. MailConnector/Email capability is welcome and I know I will buy it if you create one.
 
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