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11/2/2014 1:09 AM
 
Scippy One wrote:

I know 2sxc module and I've already try to develop little application with it, but it has absolutely nothing to do with PA.

With PA you can put online in a couple of hours any type of website with catalog feature highly customized and configured to suit many different needs and design, but if you do not know this module, this is not the place to explain what it does.
I have tested hundreds of DNN modules, but none at today is as powerful as PA!

I have to agree with this as we use property agent in most of our sites. It is such a universal module that can be used to build anything.. 

Here are a few sites that we have done recently using only the property agent & open web studio modules (used for email forms) - both sites below are 100% responsive thanks to bootstrap:

http://mpcp.mydevelopmentserver.com (just being finalized now)

http://www.amberlee.com.au

I hope that Scott either gives property agent some love again soon or DNN corp looks seriously at acquirying it & keep developing it.. If it was not for the property agent module I would not be using DNN anymore.

 
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11/5/2014 7:41 AM
 

I was an avid user of PA and NA. I did quite a lot with it and (ab)used it more than once for solution it was not developed for :)

I have been redoing client sites that either use these modules to 2SXC. I even blogged and provided a sample for an NA like module . News module with 2 helper modules , news_recent and news_category  http://2dnn.com/Blog.aspx demo here http://2dnn.com/2sxc/2DNN_News.aspx

I also converted over PA installs to use 2SXC. This is also not that difficult and the template possibilities ( because of razor ) you can do makes your apps much more powerful. And because it was all razor temaplting all the features i have been asking for from Scott I could easily code in myself.

Because you don't have the wizard options that PA has the setup of your initial data might take some longer to do but generally I would say that the initial setup of what I did for PA and now with 2SXC, 2SXC takes me double the time to set up but after that I have much more options to use and display the data and extend it myself. All the limiting PA template workarounds are not needed anymore as you can just code up what you need.

I do plan to release a starter package of a 2SXC app that you can compare to a standard PA install but its still in planning stages and there are only so much hours in a day. The only thing I am still tweaking is an advanced search as powerful as PA but i am making progress

The 2 sites mentioned in this thread don't seem to have all the bells and whistles of PA so from what I see I could set this up as fast in 2SXC as in PA. This is for me as I have been using this for years now but once you get the hang of 2SXC and the content type way of thinking it will be second nature for you as well. I think 90% of all my current websites is 2SXC

Feel free to ask questions on the 2SXC discussions on codeplex , more than enough people around to help you

 

Armand

 

 
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11/5/2014 11:47 AM
 

Hi Armand,

thanks for your interest, but an advanced search as powerful as PA is not the only powerful feature in PA, there are hundreds of powerful feature and hundreds of tips collected over many years from Ventrian community ready to use in PA. As you say there are only so much hours in a day, and the reason of this thread is hoping to find a continuity solution in this module without having to start all over again!

 
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11/5/2014 4:52 PM
 
The PA developer can donate his modules to the open source community like Engage Software did with their commercial modules. If the developer is still making money from selling even without supporting them anymore, I might question his incentive to do anything and just keep selling. OR someone can buy the the modules with the IP rights and transfer ownership.

On a side note: my suggestion to Armand is this: I have seen him praising 2sxc soo much and he's nuts about it. Well then he can create a professional video on how to use 2sxc in a professional way and sell it in the store. He seems to be still making DNN themes and selling in the store when he mentioned once he wasn't going to make more. Poor sales. So how about stopping work on creating more and work on that video. I will bet he'll sell more of the video than one more new DNN theme. Personally the store is flooded with themes and there's too much competition. Work on a new product type.
 
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11/5/2014 8:02 PM
 
Armand Datema wrote:

I was an avid user of PA and NA. I did quite a lot with it and (ab)used it more than once for solution it was not developed for :)

I have been redoing client sites that either use these modules to 2SXC. I even blogged and provided a sample for an NA like module . News module with 2 helper modules , news_recent and news_category  http://2dnn.com/Blog.aspx demo here http://2dnn.com/2sxc/2DNN_News.aspx

I also converted over PA installs to use 2SXC. This is also not that difficult and the template possibilities ( because of razor ) you can do makes your apps much more powerful. And because it was all razor temaplting all the features i have been asking for from Scott I could easily code in myself.

Because you don't have the wizard options that PA has the setup of your initial data might take some longer to do but generally I would say that the initial setup of what I did for PA and now with 2SXC, 2SXC takes me double the time to set up but after that I have much more options to use and display the data and extend it myself. All the limiting PA template workarounds are not needed anymore as you can just code up what you need.

I do plan to release a starter package of a 2SXC app that you can compare to a standard PA install but its still in planning stages and there are only so much hours in a day. The only thing I am still tweaking is an advanced search as powerful as PA but i am making progress

The 2 sites mentioned in this thread don't seem to have all the bells and whistles of PA so from what I see I could set this up as fast in 2SXC as in PA. This is for me as I have been using this for years now but once you get the hang of 2SXC and the content type way of thinking it will be second nature for you as well. I think 90% of all my current websites is 2SXC

Feel free to ask questions on the 2SXC discussions on codeplex , more than enough people around to help you

 

Armand

 

 

 

If there wasn't a property agent module (which looks like it is going to be the case very soon as Scott doesn't answer tickets anymore or fix simple bugs) we wouldn't bother using 2sxc or even DNN as you are always limited by what they can do, have to put up with their bloat, slowness & bugs.. For twice the time it would take us to buid a site in pa we can whip something up using mvc / entity framework / web api / odata & angularjs. The only the only reason we don't at the moment is becuase of lack of some small clients budgets (who would want to double their budget if they do not have to?).

@Armand - as someone who has been burned many times by using 3rd party modules I highly recommend that you try to make things without involving third parties as you always get burnt in the end..  

I started off using a module for Dreamweaver called Interakt (http://www.interaktonline.info) that would help me build php & classic asp applications.. It was an awesome module until Adobe aquired it & then killed it off..  I then found DNN & used many, many 3rd party modules that no longer exist which has cost me tons of time, money, research & dev to replace.. I have also tried xmod, form & list etc to create my own modules but found that are all too limiting. I have used (& still use) openwebstudio & found it absoultley awesome as you can build anything with it. But as with DNN, I feel that openwebstudio is dying  a slow death..  

I wasted almost 10 years of my time & countless $$$ by using & relying apon 3rd party modules.. As the saying goes - do it once & do it right.. It takes very little time to learn how to do things propery. I started with  mvc / entity framework (code first) & then moved onto web api / odata & angularjs & will never look back (unless something like propery agent can halve my dev time - which I am sure that I will need to rewrite in a few years time anyway).

 
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