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11/10/2006 5:43 AM
 
Hi,

We are looking for .Net based CMS solutions to sell along side our own offering and have initially been looking at MCMS/Sharepoint, however feel that the licensing will be too costly for smaller corporate customers.

As an alternative we have been looking at DotNetNuke, however one of my partners is deeply sceptical about it on the basis that if it is as good as it is purported to be, why don't larger companies use it instead of products like MCMS/Sharepoint?

Do any of you have any suggestions that I can put forward to pursuade him ;-)

Also, if you work with DotNetNuke, do you have any corporate reference sites I can show him?

Cheers,

Julian
 
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11/10/2006 6:28 PM
 
Under the Community menu option of this site is a link for Showcase Sites.

In my experience, in larger companies the folks making the decisions are so far removed from the technology they hear the words "open source" and immediately run for the warm embrace of expensive support options from MS.  Big companies have money to spend.  Nobody gets fired for buying Cisco or Microsoft.

If you're running Windows Server 2003 built in is free Windows SharePoint Services (WSS).  Check it out.  It's no where near DNN, but you can customize it.  All SharePoint does is provide unified navigation among WSS sites and provide enterprise search.  As for CMS - it will require programming to create templates and set up workflow etc...

And yes, I'm generalizing with my comments above.  The MS products do have a pretty good API to program against.  That being said, I worked with CMS/SPS and even Commerce Server for about 2 years (for a rival of Cisco interestingly).  The dreaded MSIB solution.  It was awful (mostly due to Commerce Server).


 
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11/11/2006 12:31 AM
 

my 2 cents....

No offense to your partner or anyone else with the same opinion, but...
Installing and CONFIGURING Sharepoint and then DotnetNuke will produce the answer to your questions.
A intermediately skilled user/developer can install DNN and have the default page running in 15 minutes, less actually.
Sharepoint really requires a lot more system administration/networking skills.

Sharepoint and DotNetNuke provide 2 very different platforms and features.
They should be used together instead of trying to pick only one.
If there will not be heavy use of the Office 2003 integration there is no reason to use Sharepoint.


Sharepoint
Best use is in an Intranet environment with Active Directory.
Excellent interaction with Microsoft Office 2003, especially Excel & OutLook.
Excellent Active Directory integration.
WSS is free with Windows Server 2003.  This is more than adequate for small sites.
More difficult to write custom modules (webparts).
Painfully difficult to create a clean looking website.

DotNetNuke
No licenses required. (MS SQL only)
Full source code.  Not many valid reasons to modify the core but the code is an excellent source of "how to" do everything.
Excellent application development platform.  Sharepoint does not come even close.
Modules (user controls) can be written in vb.net or c#.
Skinning engine provides unlimited control over the look of your site.
Hundreds of inexpensive modules that save 100's of development hours.

How to use both
Since Sharepoint steps all over the "default" website it is difficult to get DNN working as an excluded virtual folder. 

Create a new website with its own IPAddress, url and application pool.
DNN will work just fine and both platforms are completely separate.

mikez

 
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11/11/2006 6:42 AM
 
From a non-technical viewpoint  (mikez was pretty indepth ;)  you can see some of the sites created in DNN by going to the DotNetNuke Directory and selecting Showcase sites. These are sites built with DNN but nothing to do with DNN...


Entrepreneur

PokerDIY Tournament Manager - PokerDIY Tournament Manager<
PokerDIY Game Finder - Mobile Apps powered by DNN
PokerDIY - Connecting Poker Players

 
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