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1/30/2007 6:29 PM
 

DNN uses its Membership Provider (thats the members section).

The AspNetMembershipProvider implementation of this uses a hybrid of custom dnn tables together with the Membership components.

So the concreate implementation used itself uses the Membership provider included in ASP.NET.

I know that's complicated but there was no point in redoing all the useful membership managing stuff found in the .NET classes, but we needed to add the ability to manage users across portals.


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1/30/2007 7:02 PM
 

I thought I posted last week on this... 

Brian ..  are the UCanUse SSO modules not working with 4.4+?

I thought at one time (recently) you were working with the core team on developing an updated solution?

I also thought the core team had SSO across portals on the roadmap?

 

 
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1/30/2007 7:57 PM
 

Thank you for the quick response, Charles.

Does this mean I need to replace both providers in order to keep all user information in the data store of an external application? Looks like the provider in the members section overrides methods specific to functionality required by the DNN core, while the other provider covers the more general membership services through the ASP.NET classes. Or would it be possible to replace only the ASP.NET membership provider and avoid calling on any of the specialized DNN-related methods? For what we need to do, we actually do not want much of the user functionality exposed.

I think I'm finally beginning to see how all the pieces fit, but I'll know for sure once I get things working.

Tim


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1/31/2007 11:10 AM
 
brian wrote

I thought I posted last week on this... 

Brian ..  are the UCanUse SSO modules not working with 4.4+?

I thought at one time (recently) you were working with the core team on developing an updated solution?

I also thought the core team had SSO across portals on the roadmap?

 



UCanUse User Attributes, our custom registration product, has been updated to work with the new DNN provider models. UCanUse Portal Mapper (which supported SSO and portal groups for DNN 3.0/4.0) is not compatible with DNN 3.3/4.3 and higher. We participated in the 3.3/4.3 beta through the platinum benefactor program and offered feedback regarding the new DNN provider design. However, we never worked with the core team to upgrade Portal Mapper to DNN 3.3/4.3. Portal Mapper consists of a customized Membership and Profile provider (ASP.Net 2.0 providers). It works by mapping portal-specific application names e.g. dnn_0 to admin-defined application names. This approach is completely incompatible with DNN 3.3/4.3.

The problem with the new implementation…

DotNetNuke MUST be the owner of all user information. But what if I don’t want DNN to manage my account information? Consider this use case scenario…

Our UCanUse website runs on DotNetNuke. I’d like to expand our site as follows…
- I want two separate DNN installations, not necessarily the same versions.
- I want a separate (non-DotNetNuke) ASP.Net 2.0 application
- I want all web applications to share membership/profile information. I don’t care if each app maintains its own roles.
- I’d like to keep my membership information in a separate database providing easy: backups, ability to do a clean DNN install

This scenario would have been possible with DNN 3.0/4.0 (perhaps with some minor modifications). How can I accomplish this with DNN 3.3/4.3? This isn’t a rhetorical question, I really need an answer.

Thanks,
Brian

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1/31/2007 11:18 AM
 
If you'll write to me at jncraig@gmail.com I can put you in touch with the organization that solved by custom membership provider problem.



Joe Craig
Patapsco Research Group, Ellicott City, MD
DotNetNuke Development and Services (http://patapscorg.com)
 
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