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11/13/2007 12:13 PM
 

greg - Your assumption is incorrect.  We work completely off of Gemini, with maybe a few IMs, emails or team chats  to clarify requirements on a specific feature.  So whem someone points you to Gemini, they are pointing you to the only consolidated documentation that exists.  We are working to make the Gemini comments more clear, but that is not a simple fix.  In the end, we have been asked for more release documentation than we have the resources to produce at the moment.  We focused our initial efforts on making sure that Gemini contains all the release notes and once that problem is fully resolved, then we can move onto creating summary release documents.


Joe Brinkman
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11/13/2007 12:25 PM
 

Joe Brinkman wrote

 We focused our initial efforts on making sure that Gemini contains all the release notes and once that problem is fully resolved, then we can move onto creating summary release documents.

The people working on this (Alex, Shawn M.) work VERY hard at this task. Alex spent about 4 hours in the past month working on the Gemini notes for the Survey project alone. The Survey project is less than 1% of the size of the Core project.

I hope that the community can appreciate the information available in Gemini and not dismiss it as "bogus".



Michael Washington
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11/13/2007 1:02 PM
 

I agree Gemini has improved 1,000% but Alex cannot do what he does not have..

Example:

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/825/EntryID/1637/Default.aspx

http://support.dotnetnuke.com/issue/ViewIssue.aspx?id=6637&PROJID=2

As you can see, there is no documentation, details, etc.     This is common for new features, functionality..     often not in Gemini, when it is, it lacks details.   This would be ok if it was documented.

How did this feature get implemented if Gemini is used mostly for specs?

 

 

 
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11/14/2007 1:02 PM
 

First, my bad - in the past, I was just going in to look at the issues and tried to look at the changelog without much success.  Now I DO see that there is some good information in the changelog area of Gemini.  I AM VERY glad the developers are putting this in. 

HOWEVER - there is no reason this information is not posted in the annoucment forum for each release - that's what it should be used for and it's not hard to do,  just cut and paste like I have.

(from http://support.dotnetnuke.com/project/ChangeLog.aspx?PROJID=2)

(4.7.0) Major Release Core Modules Bug DNN-650 Banner: Alignment Does Not Work
  Data Access (DAL) Bug DNN-1387 FileBaseCachingProvider: CacheDependency requires absolute path.
  General Bug DNN-1374 Language of Registration Confirmation Email
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-1941 Banner link doesn't work on child sites
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-2282 Parent Root Menu Item Style reverts to incorrect class
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-2863 Admin can cancel host settings of Ads
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-3258 No Warning message displayed when non-existent username entered.
  Security Bug DNN-3328 Adding a duplicate role
  Installation / Upgrade Bug DNN-3490 Upgrade will fail if one has modified Friendlyname of SearchInput module
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-4928 Can't delete blue skin ever
  Core Modules Bug DNN-4107 Account login module: does not work with cache set
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-4572 Duplicate email notifications are possible when adding a security role
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-4872 WebRequest Timeout value is not persisted
  Installation / Upgrade Bug DNN-4980 ObjectQualifier missing
  Performance Bug DNN-5237 Login page with captcha enabled causes error and application slowdown
  UI / Usability Bug DNN-5375 Register - enter key closes div
  File Manager Bug DNN-5583 File names ending with.resources are not corrected treated
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-5460 Deleted page neither in Recycle Bin nor listed in Event Viewer
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-5631 Vendor - Affiliate Tracking increments incorrectly
  General Bug DNN-5575 Sitemap.aspx Shows Hidden Tabs
  File Manager Bug DNN-5833 container does not grow with folder list in firefox 2.0.0.0.4
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6442 Adding modules to multiple pages makes modules disappear.
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-5857 Patch for guarding against 0 byte files during Packaged Module Installation
  Core Modules Bug DNN-5873 Banner tag of image not rendered correctly --> causes skin to be misaligned
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-5939 User's Role Visibility not taking effect when Subscribing to new role
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6529 Wrong date format in security role notifications.
  UI / Usability Bug DNN-6532 Logical error in Users.ascx.vb causes Question/Answer input to never be displayed, irrespective of configuration
  Skinning Bug DNN-6533 ContentPane ContainerSrc property is not portable between host and portal skins
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6546 Installation of 4.7.0 beta 1 fails
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6547 Export Page missing message...
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6556 Captcha issues with SSL enabled
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6564 When creating portals with duplicate names
  Skinning Bug DNN-6595 First module in toppane gets a grey container
  General Bug DNN-6527 TokenReplace.Cacheability returns wrong level
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6000 Ajax.Isinstalled causes System.OutOfMemory exception
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6009 IIS7: "Manage Users in Roles" throw exception
  Templates Bug DNN-6050 skin setting in a page template - bug or feature?
  Search Bug DNN-6087 Printing Search results shows a blank page
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6227 Sentence Fragment used in Package Manager
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6230 Missing Localization for Skin Designer
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6234 User Quota issue
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6239 Disabling pages can lock everybody out of website
  Security Bug DNN-6477 Force Update Password - Administrator Account
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6481 Missing Localization for TokenReplaceUnknownProperty.Text
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6382 Resource file verifier errors on empty resource files
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6486 Host Vendors: Cannot see URL control
  Skinning Bug DNN-6505 Language SkinObject no longer rendering
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6509 small formatting issues in EditBanner.ascx / vb
  Friendly / Standard URLs Bug DNN-6511 URL's - Running Default querystring parameter
  Friendly / Standard URLs Bug DNN-6468 URL validation in UrlRewriteModule unnecessarily strict
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6522 DNN login control changes when localized
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6523 banners.xml missing attribute "borderColor"
  General Bug DNN-6526 TokenReplace.ContainsTokens always return True
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6530 Error: Portals is currently unavailable.
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6448 Issue DNN-4191 is not working with images
  Exception Management Bug DNN-6545 strange referer values cause exceptions
  UI / Usability Bug DNN-6604 Logical error in Password.ascx DataBind method causes password expiration / forced update to fail when MembershipProviderConfig.PasswordRetrievalEnabled=false
  End User Functions Bug DNN-6541 Default reg. email verification link broken if "Login Page" is chosen in Site Settings
  General Bug DNN-6590 DateTimeEditControl exception
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6627 DateTime Edit Control issue
  Installation / Upgrade Bug DNN-6631 Spelling issue in Installer
  UI / Usability Bug DNN-6456 Host Settings Issue
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6189 GetSystemMessage does not pass on available portalsettings parameter
  General Bug DNN-6206 PersonalizationController.LoadProfile should check whether profile is already loaded in context
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6329 misspelling in \App_GlobalResources\SharedResources.resx
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6653 View mode and module cache time 0
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6663 GetSchedule has poor performance
  General Bug DNN-6669 ManageTokenUploadDirectory Case Sensitive
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6204 Localization.SetLanguage no longer working
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6221 LINKS skin object no longer displaying Host/Admin links
  Skinning Bug DNN-6171 Pane id "ControlPane"l and "controlpanel" is not the same
  Data Access (DAL) Bug DNN-6275 GetConnectionStringUserID causes exception
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6136 Editing resource file eith HTML editor does not redirect to correct screen
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6307 Lists error
  Data Access (DAL) Bug DNN-6415 SP GetAllUsers is sorted against FirstName + ' ' + LastName
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6158 File Manager - FIlter stays on when navigating to other folders
  Security Bug DNN-6193 Problem with the Force password Change via the Enter Key
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6361 RegisterAssembly Error by 04.06.00.SqlDataProvider
  Performance Bug DNN-6372 CacheDependency Memory Leak
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6226 Control Title "ImportModuleDefinition" not localized
  Installation / Upgrade Bug DNN-6231 Misleading Description at Install Wizard
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6288 TabInfo.IsSuperTab not returning correct value
  UI / Usability Bug DNN-6365 Redirect after Logout setting has no effect
  UI / Usability Bug DNN-6377 Password reminder tool does not work if user account locked out
  Installation / Upgrade Bug DNN-6422 Install wizard: hide Prev
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6423 Event Viewer; IP Address No Longer Shown 4.6.2
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6472 Duplicate Users show up in Online User List
  HTML Editor Bug DNN-6485 Updates Ignored for Richtext Datatype
  Data Access (DAL) Bug DNN-6507 FileBasedCachingProvider file locking issues on a web farm
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6508 returning from editing vendors sometimes gives error in IIS7
  Friendly / Standard URLs Bug DNN-6638 TabPathDictionary contains deleted tabs
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6646 Error sending mail on portal creation
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6662 Line Breaks added to Renered HTML
  Localization / ML Bug DNN-6634 language switch no longer working for logged on users
  General Bug DNN-6369 Add Javascript to Single Page = unable to edit
  General Bug DNN-6391 admin/Security/SendPassword.ascx.vb contains an implicit cast, should be made explicit
  Admin / Host Functions Bug DNN-6659 Can't send bulk mail when certain settings are selected
  Friendly / Standard URLs Enhancement DNN-6637 Human Friendly URLS
  Skinning Enhancement DNN-6118 LANGUAGE skinobject should have minimal security access to tokenreplacer
  Exception Management Enhancement DNN-6337 Error indexing module contents for search
  Admin / Host Functions Enhancement DNN-6470 Allow Host User to Enable/Disable AJAX
  General Enhancement DNN-6528 Add Overloads for TokenReplace.New including ModuleID
  Admin / Host Functions Enhancement DNN-6447 AJAX support requires the download of javascript even if not used
  Admin / Host Functions Enhancement DNN-5568 "Page" User Profile data type not rendered correctly
  Dependencies Enhancement DNN-5151 File-based cache filenames should not be base64 encoded
  Admin / Host Functions Enhancement DNN-4768 UsePortNumber setting put into web.config by default
  UI / Usability Enhancement DNN-4782 Add spacing between MinMax Icon and Heading in Registration Categories
  UI / Usability Enhancement DNN-3624 Compliance - replace deprecated tags
  General Enhancement DNN-2495 reply-to is missing
  Admin / Host Functions New Feature DNN-6429 Bulkmail: Add Language Filter
  Admin / Host Functions New Feature DNN-6437 Bulkmail: Add option for SMS/FAX relay service
  Admin / Host Functions Task DNN-6642 Newsletters, form changes in 4.7.0 B2
  Exception Management Task DNN-6312 UpdateSettings in ModuleSettingsbase
  Admin / Host Functions Task DNN-6211 Password not provided on create portal notification
  Compliance (ADA, WCAG, XHTML) Task DNN-6517 clean up banners skinobject and module
  Admin / Host Functions Task DNN-6434 Null.Byte and Null.Short missing
 
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11/14/2007 1:57 PM
 

Joe Brinkman wrote

So whem someone points you to Gemini, they are pointing you to the only consolidated documentation that exists.

That is a major flaw in DNN.  No reasonable consolidated documentatiuon actually exists anywhere.  By 4.7.0 the documentation, limited as it is, in the documentation package is woefully inadequate.  Sifting through project blogs and forums can get you some information, and for anyone digging into Gemini there's a slim chance you'll find what you're looking for eventually, but DNN needs a documentation project.

Case in point are the various DNN books out.  By the time each is released, the book is incorrect.  Walkthroughs have entirely different screens than existed for the screenshots in the book.  Many on the core team would argue that the coe has stayed similar, and it all builds on itself pretty well, but unless you dig through the source that's of no use.  Heck, there's not even a forum for basic help questions.

DNN has matured.  Project management and documentation skills of the developers appears not to have kept pace.  Create a documentation project for Cambrian.  Require new releases to be documented before release.  Maintain the documentation.  And maintain two sets, a users/administrator's guide and a programmer's guide.

Jeff

 
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