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2/13/2007 3:05 PM
 

Summary:  This thread is basically about what form of business morality DNN core management will choose to follow. I am just an average DNN user concerned by recent actions and statements from the core team managment. I am asking if other users in the DNN community, or anybody, have comments to share. (Please note that I am wrong in initially asking if names are in order below, and actually would like to keep this about business practices and not individuals.)

 


Where is the discussion and comments on the DNN 2007 Organizational Changes - ie. requesting former core team members to "retire voluntarily"

 

Yes, I have read the blogs here and I an NOT happy at all at the way DNN corp is going in regards to asking former core team members to keep quiet about this matter. Or even more wrong, to lie about it and make it look like "they chose" to resign. Is this not an open community? What's next? Hiding more discussions and not telling the truth about charging everyone for DNN 5? Announce that after the fact?

Shame on you for blaming it on the need "to distinguish between contributions which require privileged access to resources and channels from those that do not." And then never explaining "the need" at all. Who's need is it? Mine? Yours? Some mystery club? Where is that discussion? Where is the reason Jan 2007 was chosen? What happened in Dec and Nov and so on? Why annouce such a big change after the fact? Send the letters, then annouce the fact. Why not ask if we in the community wanted you to send those letters? Show us a letter. Name the names, and name the reasons. We are adults here and we will express our respect as we choose, not as someone else chooses for us. We will tell you if Jack or Jill is helping us. You are not even giving us a chance to speak. Why is that?

DNN would be nothing without the people that use it. And without the people that built it, even if it was a tiny role, a small conttribution in your tally. That was your point of view. You forgot about us for a minute. You got caught up in some power trip with the corp formation, the popularity of DNN, money, investors, business plans, future expansion, whatever. You forgot about your heart and why there even is a DNN in the first place. You forgot about who really matters. If you play god and try to distinguish between the value of one person over another, you will lose us. Little by little, each time you do something like this, you take a little bit away from the DNN community which started it all.

 
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2/13/2007 3:12 PM
 
Core team members come and go, I don't think it's any of your business, or ours for that matter to "discuss" it.

As far as DNN 5 being a chargeable software product, I'd say to you that you should put up some proof and evidence before you throw your little temper tantrum.

Shame on you.
 
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2/13/2007 3:15 PM
 
I am sorry if it sounded like a temper tantrum to you. Not my intention. I would like to see if other DNN community members have comments, and I expressed mine. You expressed you don't care about core team membership changes or how they are made, and that is fine.
 
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2/13/2007 5:03 PM
 

solarspin,

I am not part of the core or anything like that, but when you get any group of people together there will be conflict and things can get messy at times.  If all those issues were public, it could cause hard feelings for different people that may not actually deserve it.  I for one do not care to hear all those battles as it would not benefit me nor DNN.

In a project such as this though, the core needs to have dedicated team players who are passionate about DNN and can keep up with things.  If they are not, projects can flounder and hurt everyone in the DNN community.  It is best, if there are people available that want to fit a role who can do a better job or they have more motivation, to let them do the work so DNN keeps growing.

In such a project as DNN, the original author has all power on who does what and when.  Here it is delegated to others and all he decides to share that power.  It is not up for anyone to demand anything from him other those to which he has delegated authority.  We are the guests and receive freely from them.

People do not need to be part of the core simply to contribute to DNN.  I recently starting using Gemini to submit ideas and fixes (okay, one of each at this point but it is a start ) and so can others and does not require a person to be part of the core.

As for DNN going commercial, I doubt that will ever happen as it would be the death of DNN as we know it.  If such a thing as that happened there would be a ton for forks off the project and others would take over continue with the project.  That is the "first" reason I got involved with DNN as it is under a BSD licenese so I will never be boxed into a commercial product such as they have done on Community Server (which I would not touch with a ten foot poll due to their evolution of licensing).

Just remember though, very few people probably know all the details behind the retirements, but I trust they had a good reason and to the benefit of DNN.

 

 
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2/13/2007 5:29 PM
 

Can you guys take a chill pill?

If anyone should complain about it - it should be the resignees and no one else.

I have not heard anything from there other than they were gratefull for the opportunity to be part of something great.

Also, could you please point me to the article/post/blog that mention DNN 5 as a commercial version?

 

Thanks.


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