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2/13/2007 11:49 PM
 

Please stick to the subject of this thread and not flame the OP or other DNN members for their opinion.

Should DNN leaders tell DNN members to lie? Why?

 
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2/13/2007 11:54 PM
 

Solarspin - it does look like you're either one of those that was a part of the core and then asked to withdraw or there's some other agenda you're trying to bring to the table. In either case, it would help if you come out openly and address it rather than beating around the bush.
For starters if the core did have a hidden agenda like you seem to be suggesting, then wouldn't there be more people besides just yourself that could attest to this?
Additionally, after re-reading your post, you seem to be directing it towards one specific person - care to openly come out and say who it is?
I decided to post on this thread for one simple reason - I happen to be one of those few who were part of another project (the firebird dataprovider) and was approached about moving forward with that or not. I think it was handled in a very professional manner by the core team members and I was given the opportunity to contribute via some other means or simply retire the project. I chose to retire the project and also head up the feedback module at the same time. I do not and never have expected any favors from the core regarding anything with DNN. I do offer commercial modules for DNN and could have gone the route of simply retiring the project and moving on.
Participation in this community is completely voluntary and at the same time it should be expected that certain guidelines and policies are adhered to by EVERY volunteer to the project. If that means that when people don't participate they are asked to either withdraw or start participating, then I don't see anything wrong with that.
If Shaun and the rest of the management are trying to explore other commercial avenues for DotNetNuke - why are you getting your panties stuck in a bunch because of that? Haven't they and the rest of the team members put enough time and material into this product and still offer it as an completely free product?
Every project (whether in a company or an open source foundation) will always have politics - it's the nature of the beast. That being said, I don't think there's anything wrong in it. Core team members should have a vision and idea of where to take DNN and be able to act upon it - that's why they are the core team members.

Hopefully you're prepared to have an open and intelligent discussion regarding your post and not just try and grab your 15 seconds of fame? If you have a grievance, take it up with the core first, if you don't get a response then try and get it resolved via the community. If that doesn't also work, then I would suggest you look for some other project out there to participate in - hell, maybe you could even start one up!


Sanjay


AcuitiDP - Oracle Data Provider for DotNetNuke
 
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2/14/2007 12:20 AM
 
solarspin wrote

Should DNN leaders tell DNN members to lie? Why?



I didn't take your quote to mean anyone was telling anyone to lie. What I took it as was what the other two members have tried to point out but you failed to either read, comprehend, or just plain ignored.

What I took it as was, "Hey, it's not working out and we're asking you to leave (for whatever reasons)." And usually what that entails is an amount of mutual respect from both parties that just says neither of the parties are going to go out and try to bad mouth the other in a public arena.

Kinda like what you're doing with this thread.
 
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2/14/2007 12:21 AM
 

First, I am just a DNN community member average joe or jill. I am Not someone who got sacked, not someone on the core, not an inexperienced soloist, not Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, have no hidden agenda, nor has anyone put me up to this, etc... My, my, a few of you are really sensative, worried about something/someone it seems and not much worried about how these actions make DNN appear to our DNN community as a whole. It is not about me, plain DNN user me. I want no personal part of this, no fame... lol. Anyone could have brought this up.

I don't want a lecture on business management, I don't want to direct any thing at any one. I said "DNN author(s)" only becuase I did not know who to address and was trying NOT to address any individual. I pulled going commercial out of the blue as a silly example. But, the facts are the facts, and what was done was done. And as just a little innocent mushroom on the floor of the DNN cave, I asked for comments on what happened, and I expressed my opinion, my unvalidated unfamous uneducated unwanted it seems opinion on something that happened right in front of all of us.

 

 

 
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2/14/2007 12:30 AM
 
solarspin wrote

I pulled going commercial out of the blue as a silly example.

Oh brother. So let me get this straight, you fabricated (lied) about something in order to support your arguements about someone telling someone else to lie?!?!

I think that about sums it up, were all done here...

BTW, if you can't seem to make it through the other long posts at least make it through the quote below.

jbrinkman wrote

Why in the world would anyone believe that we should air our disagreements in public.  Would you like it if your boss at work took out a full page ad in USAToday stating how your work was not up to their standards or that because of financial considerations you were going to be let go?  I don't know of any company that would do this, or any employee who would appreciate it.

 
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