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4/24/2007 12:13 PM
 

Hello

I have two sites running with my hosting  (shared server) company.  Both 4.4.1. Both seperate DNN site e.g. files sql 2000 databases and url's.

One of the (www.drivewaydesign.eu) sites is medium size, it seems to be working fine.

But the other site  (www.a2zdom.com) contains hundreds of pages, which I have been working on it for months and work is still in progress. I spend all yesterday on this site.  But this morning I could not access it on line.

I sent a ticket to my hosting company and they eventually got back to be and suggested that I re-check the database connection in my web.config file.  Which I thought was quite odd as I had not touched the web config file for a long time as I had no need to edit it.

To my shock when I went to the site root the web config file was "MISSING" I had certainly not deleted it.  Fortunately I had a backup of my database settings and machine settings etc., so I was able to upload a fresh copy of the web config file.

But I still could not access site.  I decided to double check my web config database settings with my database.  I am using Aqua Data Studio so I can quickly view my database on my desktop.  I opened my database server and got a shock  and panicked when I found that my database was "MISSING" and a "cuckoo" database in its place a non related non DNN database, (I don't know who it belongs to, the name of the database is ubelt_dados) so if this is your's please email me .

I got back in touch with my hosting provider and after some time they evenually found my database. Phew! what a relief, quite a scary few hours, (the db they found was actually a backup of my database a few days earlier), so the work I had done all yesterday  etc., was gone.  But at least I have the database back and site on line again.

The explaination was that my database was suspect and the server had rejected it.

Is this possible or am I being paranoid and thinking it might be the work of a hacker?

I am using a basic DNN database, running on MS SQL 2000.  What could be suspect about the database and how can I prevent this from happening again? Is it because I have so many pages?

I have noticed that this site is running quite slow, even though I have pageblaster and host-tracker set up, could  the be database be struggling and failing, I understand that DNN database can take thousands of pages, or am I mistaken?

My other site  (approx 50 pages) is on the same server is using the same type of db but so far it is ok.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Lynn


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4/24/2007 1:26 PM
 

this sounds to me like a problem with your hosting company. Even if they assume any file to be "suspect", they should not delete it.


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Sebastian Leupold

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4/24/2007 2:41 PM
 

Running hundreds of pages on a DNN site is not a problem.  The DNN demo sites hosts hundreds of demo sites (which is much more resource intensive) without any problem.  However, your mileage may vary depending on the configuration of your hosting provider.  A

suspect database is SQL Servers way of saying that something is wrong with the database and that it could not bring the database online for some reason.  I am not a DBA so I only have limited knowledge of the topic, but you can find more info by googling "SQL Server Suspect Database".  You would have to do more sleuthing to determine the exact cause of the problem, but it is unlikely to be a hacker since they would tend to be more interested in stealing your data or defacing your site, rather than causing an otherwise anonymous site to fail.  Unless there is some personal vendetta against you, there is nothing to be gained for a hacker by anonymously crashing your site.  I would suspsect that it is just a hiccup in SQL Server (which does occassionally happen).


Joe Brinkman
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4/24/2007 2:55 PM
 

Are you opening the live database with the third party tool (Aqua)? That would be where my suspicions would lie.

Far safer to browse a copy of the database.

 
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4/24/2007 3:39 PM
 

Hello

Thanks for the information and reply's. 

I suspect that my hosting company may have accidentally caused the problem, but I don't know for sure. They are currently upgrading their servers, I think an error may have occured during the server upgrade and perhaps they are just trying to blame my database.   But, I don't know enough about SQL DB to say for sure that my DB does not have an error or look for problems if it has.

I think your thoughts on a hacker creating a problem on an unknown site is quite logical and I don't know of anybody who might want to sabotage the site. 

Perhaps it is just a database hiccup.  Or perhaps because I have the DB  on my desktop.  But at least I have it back.

Thanks for your thougts, it has made me feel a bit easier.

Lynn

 


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