Products

Solutions

Resources

Partners

Community

Blog

About

QA

Ideas Test

New Community Website

Ordinarily, you'd be at the right spot, but we've recently launched a brand new community website... For the community, by the community.

Yay... Take Me to the Community!

Welcome to the DNN Community Forums, your preferred source of online community support for all things related to DNN.
In order to participate you must be a registered DNNizen

HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...Is DNN suitable for my uses?Is DNN suitable for my uses?
Previous
 
Next
New Post
5/17/2007 3:49 PM
 

Hi All.

I don't want to sound like a troll. I understand DNN is a very powerful framework with great community support. I also understand that as good as it is it might not be the right tool for my use. I am looking for a simple CMS so that my clients will be able to quickly update some parts of their site quickly and easily. They are usually small to mid-sized businesses with very limited budgets. I have set up a few Contribute websites and in general my clients are very happy with it. For other clients, however, they might have a need for some custom functions that require ASP.NET. I know Macromedia (now Adobe) advertise Dreamweaver and Contribute as ASP.NET compatible, but I want to be able to develop the site in Visual Studio whenever I do ASP.NET.

The last time I tried DNN it was the 3.11 version. (In fact a few sites I built using 3.11 are still running great.) There were many things that I like and there are plenty of stuff that I can see room for improvement. I apologize if my problem is caused by my incorrect usage or setting, in which case I would really appreciate if someone can show me the proper way.

First, let me tell you what I like about DNN.

1. Pretty intuitive editing interface. There are many options and settings, true. But as long as my client stay within what I have shown them, they have hardly encountered any problem editing their sites.

2. Pretty good SEO support. Better than many CMS at that time.

3. Pretty good performance. Granted their sites are pretty low traffic but the response time is pretty good for a dynamic site. (I think the caching helps a lot)

4. Pretty easy to set up.

5. Many good templates available for purchase; and it is not that difficult to create customized ones.

6. Many useful modules built-in and many 3rd party ones to choose from

7. Cost & licensing. As mentioned above, the customers usualy won't be much budget for their website. Contribute, at $199US, is about the most they would spend on a CMS.

My concerns (with DNN 3.11)

1. HUGE viewstate data.  I mostly only use the HTML control to display customized content (mostly text from clients). My sites almost never require any post back data. For starter, even the DNN homepage has a huge viewstate. Is there a way to reduce the size, esp. my uses don't require post back data.

2. SolPartMenu - did't work properly in Safari and IE Mac. I created a template for a client once, with the default menu, and I found out it didn't work properly under IE Mac and Safari. Knowing that the user is a Mac user, I felt it would be quicker if I use dreamweaver + contribute for this particular client. Is it still a problem for v 4.5 or is there any good third party modules to replace it? Also, the menu still used table for layout.

3. WYSIWYG editor doesn't output standard-compliant XHTML. I hope this has been resolved in 4.5.

4. Tables used for layout purposes. I prefer CSS layout. Even I did try to use pure CSS layout in my 3.11 templates, many modules, etc still used table for layout and making it really hard to achieve a consistent layout that work on most browser and platform.

I would like to know if 4.5 solve most of my problems or if there are 3rd party modules, etc that will. Also, if you think DNN is not the right tool for me, do you have any recommedation? Any comment and pointer is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 
New Post
5/18/2007 9:15 AM
 

Download and install the current version and test.  See what concerns you still have and what has changed since 3.x was released.  As far as your concerns, they are mostly issues with the way you configure your site.  And remember, DNN is not a content management system or a predefined portal.  It's a framework for you to develop in. If you're not a developer and want an out of the box solution, DNN isn't it.  Unless you hire a developer.

Jeff

 
New Post
5/18/2007 2:42 PM
 

To address your concerns from my point of view anyway.

1.  This depends on the modules used and the caching options within each respective module.  I personally don't hae "too much" of an issue with page sizes on my sites, but there are some pages that do get a bit of viewstate.  You can TRY moving the page state information to memory in 4.5.1, but it has a bit of a tricky implementation...(IE doesn't always work with specific modules).

2.  I believe that this is also much better, but a lot of it really depends on the CSS that is supporting the menu.  For example my previous site skin had many issues with the menu, now my menu is actually fairly compliant with other browsers (http://www.mitchelsellers.com).  So a lot of that really depends on the individual skin used.

3.  The editor with the introduction of the FCK editor by default has made great strides in improving the quality of the code.  Is it 100%, I am not sure as I haven't been keeping a close eye on it, but I believe it is better.

4.  This is really up to three things.  First is the skin used, the skin if the first layer of rending and you can make full CSS skins as I know they exist and work quite qell.  Second is the container, these also can be full CSS but again it depends on how they were built.  The third involves the individual modules, some modules might use tables for layout but some others might not, it really depends on your specific implementation.

Also, just to re-iterate what was posted above.  DNN does not include typical "CMS" functionality in terms of approvals and workflows, but it does allow the sharing of editing responsibilities.  I just want to make sure that you remember that from your 3.1.1 installation.


-Mitchel Sellers
Microsoft MVP, ASPInsider, DNN MVP
CEO/Director of Development - IowaComputerGurus Inc.
LinkedIn Profile

Visit mitchelsellers.com for my mostly DNN Blog and support forum.

Visit IowaComputerGurus.com for free DNN Modules, DNN Performance Tips, DNN Consulting Quotes, and DNN Technical Support Services
 
Previous
 
Next
HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...Is DNN suitable for my uses?Is DNN suitable for my uses?


These Forums are dedicated to discussion of DNN Platform and Evoq Solutions.

For the benefit of the community and to protect the integrity of the ecosystem, please observe the following posting guidelines:

  1. No Advertising. This includes promotion of commercial and non-commercial products or services which are not directly related to DNN.
  2. No vendor trolling / poaching. If someone posts about a vendor issue, allow the vendor or other customers to respond. Any post that looks like trolling / poaching will be removed.
  3. Discussion or promotion of DNN Platform product releases under a different brand name are strictly prohibited.
  4. No Flaming or Trolling.
  5. No Profanity, Racism, or Prejudice.
  6. Site Moderators have the final word on approving / removing a thread or post or comment.
  7. English language posting only, please.
What is Liquid Content?
Find Out
What is Liquid Content?
Find Out
What is Liquid Content?
Find Out