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10/21/2008 9:43 AM
 

By default, even in DNN 4.9 you will have 3 or maybe 4 duplicated pages.

Here's my situation:

My site is ranked with PR 3 at first, then recently dropped to 1. After some investigation....

www.domain.com PR 1
www.domain.com/Default.apsx PR 1 Thank to the [LOGO] token. (

Or If you never notice, most of the Window shared never auto redirect domain.com to www.domain.com. In this case, you will have another duplicated page. :)

throwing 2 cents: Never use Logo and Menu token / controls. It will only showing your site down (due to heave server request and poor written codes) AND being punished by search engines.




Thanks,
George

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10/21/2008 9:51 AM
 

feel free to use any other menu system arround

Also, if you are in a better mood then today, you might want to use your 2 cents better than just throwing them.. you could also invest them by clarifying what you mean, and provide code samples of how dnn's poorly written code can be enhanced.


Erik van Ballegoij, Former DNN Corp. Employee and DNN Expert

DNN Blog | Twitter: @erikvb | LinkedIn: Erik van Ballegoij on LinkedIn

 
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10/21/2008 10:07 AM
 

Hi Innochannel,

You're not the first person I've heard complain about the core DotNetNuke menu system. That's why we created the PowerMenu - it gives you complete control over the HTML that gets rendered and it is _EXTREMELY_ fast. To give you an idea about how flexible and fast it is, here are some stats about the skin on PowerDNN.com:

1) The DNN core menu components couldn't implement the menu design we have (at least we couldn't figure out how to do it).

2) We originally built it with Snapsis. With the Snapsis menu, it took 7.2 seconds to render the entire page. (most of that was menu generating time)

3) With the PowerMenu, the entire page generation takes 200-300MS which is absolutely blazing crazy fast for a DotNetNuke website.

If you're interested in using the PowerMenu in your design, kick me an email and I'll send you the binaries with a sample skin.

 
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10/22/2008 1:02 AM
 

*gratuitous self promotion thread warning :) *

The iFinity Url Master module takes care of this for you. When you install it, it automatically generates the site root for the specified home page (domain.com/ instead of domain.com/home.aspx and domain.com/home/tabid/xx/default.aspx and domain.com/defualt.aspx?tabid=xx) It will also automatically 301 redirect the 'unfriendly' versions of urls back to the 'friendly' versions if you want.

It also can 301 redirect www.domain.com to the domain.com, or the other way around.

If you're running extensionless (wildcard extensions) for IIS then it will also 301 redirect /default.aspx requests back to domain.com/ (or www.domain.com if that's what you have chosen).

If you're interested, you can download a free trial here : http://www.ifinity.com.au/Products/Ur...

I also advise people to put their logo directly into their skin. I've actually got a custom set of skin objects in development which provides for a logo that links to the correct home page url, plus privacy and terms links that have nofollow options, as well as dropping the /ctl/ part of the string. I haven't got around to posting the skin objects yet but I will do so when I get the chance to write some more documentation to go with them.

I'd just like to add that I don't believe anything in DNN is 'poorly written' just because it doesn't particularly suit SEO needs. Many people use DNN for websites that have no need for SEO, and the framework is sufficiently flexible that you can achieve whatever SEO tasks are needed, whether by options, usage or third party tools. SEO is a moving target and spending valuable core time and effort on current trends probably isn't always the smartest use of scarce resources.

-Bruce


 
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10/22/2008 9:58 AM
 

Hi Bruce!

Just bought 5 licenses from you. Hope with the money, you will create more great modules in the futures. I visited your website long long time ago before there's Url Master. I was just started knowing DNN and VB back then. I should apologized for the extreme words used. The core team actually doing great jobs, if it is really poorly written, I would not have picked DNN back then. AND if it is bad, it would getting nominated for so many awards.

I couldn't agreed more that with scar resources, spending time with the core is more crusial. That's why DNN it so flexible and customizable. Comparing to other CMS, the ease to modify module's design is the best among all.

But if we look at the default's module codes, CSS, ascx etc, they are all written using different standard, even though xhtml compliance etc. when putting up few diff module, the website become very slow as the server and browser has to digest diff cooked cuisines...

I ended up hardcoded each modules and other core's ascx to clean up all unessary codes and css. I at last saved 4MB after cleaning it. Don't blame me for being a Virgo. I read your blog Bruce, you also ended up rewrite whole url master with C++...

However, few Module really need to be revamped... the Forum module, even the Forum module in DotNetNuke.com has error on it.
html module, before the new version, it really sucks. The blog module, it once crashed the whole module when 2 users logged in with same account and post on the same time. I believe that's why most people use Scott's News Article and Active's Forum module for production side. One reason that Solpart being retired in DNN 4.9 ...I believe is poorly consideration on memory usage also.

Although good things comes with prices, DNN third party developers are far more professional, ethical and reliable that those overwhelming (in term of numbers) modules developers in other CMS--->>>>especially JOOMLA<<<<

Btw, I've embedded my site's logo in ascx already. However, I gave up using module to do Naviagation menu as site grown larger. DNN NAV help much in managing my website but just need 1-2 secs sometimes to load out the menu. zz I'm using semi-D with 512mb ram also need 1-2 secs z. Once again Bruce, you save me a lot of time and the time sure worth far more than USD 185.

Maybe we can start a vote: Most valuable Modules for DNN.
The musts for production website:
1. Property Agent
2. News Articles
3. Url Master
4. Active Forum

A must NOT uses default things list:
[logo],[privacy][terms],[credits]...[]skinpath], i.e just don't use token in skins. Slowing down your site by loading lots of rubbish codes only.

Btw, just notice that my website has a Sitelinks on serp already :) :), this proven that: Content is the KING. Build up content then only slowly improve on others like urls etc...(I was using default dnn url...tabid/xx/default.aspx , not even switch to HumanFriendly prior to just now, I just finished configurating Bruce's url master for my site and hour ago)

Yeah! Thanks guys! One last thing: No offence, but I think majority of the thirty party menu are just a bit better than DNN NAV (After understanding the concept of it...after reading dnn navigation menu ebook). I rather hardcoded menu in skin's ascx...not even need 200-300ms....just 1-5ms with greater flexibility on designs.


Thanks,
George

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