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HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...Something going on with IIS6 and 4.02...any ideas?Something going on with IIS6 and 4.02...any ideas?
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4/2/2006 2:48 PM
 

This is a general appeal to some of the big guns to investigate (like you don't have anything else to do).  I have been sifting the forum for some install issues and I think there is something strange happening between WS 2003/IIS6 and 4.02.  I was ready to write my problems off to the move from 2000/IIS5 and DNN 2.x to the current but I'm starting to believe there is something flaky happening here and I think lots of others are running into it as well.  The problem seems to manifests itself a little differently based on the environment.

I have installed from the begining a couple times now and each time had a wonderful experience.  Version 4 is truely a wonderful thing.  Then I try to go "live" with it and something gets broken.  I have read a number of people having similar frustrations.  For me I am trying to have both my old and new sites running on the same server at the same time.  I had third party stuff in my version 2 so I need to transfer content manually.  No big deal.  The fact that I have successfully setup the new site twice and it behaves perfectly until I cut both sites over to the live domain makes me think there is something flaky in IIS6.

I have separate application pools and feel I have a good handle on access/permissions etc.  But once this thing goes bad...I just can't get it back.  I know the ASP 1.1 vs 2.0 setup in IIS.  I get everything from configuation errors to "page currently unavailable".  It is consistent...I get it in the IIS Snap-in, the local browser, and network browsers.  I know, being a developer, this is very difficult to troubleshoot without being able to reproduce. I just don't have the tech-no savy to track it down.  I would love to work with someone who knows the 20 questions to ask me to get to the bottom of it.

My theory is it is related to web subfolders(and/or Subdomains), Ver 4.02, IIS6 and maybe the database.  I suspect the reason I can't get it back is a database setting.  In version 2.x I used to tweak the "portals" table in the database to update the inbound HTTP addresses.  I know that moved somewhere and I don't know where.  I found it in the interface (which was cool) but don't know how to check it if you can't get into the site.  Other side effects I have documented in my other posts. I just remembered I have backups prior to the cutover so I will test the backups and see if I can bring it back from there.

I still can't say enough what an amazing thing DNN is.  When it works it is just the sweetest thing!  If I need to I will bite the bullit and move everything over to 4.02 and do a hard cutover, but I really think this is something simple and stupid.  If I can figure it out I can even help out some of the other newbies that seem to have similar problems.

So help me Obie-one ("Core Team" ) you're my only hope.

Thanks,

Jeff


Trusmart Technologies Corp.
 
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4/2/2006 4:19 PM
 
try adding a record to the PortalAlias table
 
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4/3/2006 4:06 PM
 

Thanks for the tip on the Portalalias table.  It did not correct the problem but it is nice to know where that stuff is.

Here is an interesting issue:  In IIS 6 I am running DNN 2.X and DNN 4.02 under subfolders of the "Default Web Site".  If I set the default home directory on the root "Default Web site" to DNN2 I get configuation erros on the DNN4 site.  If I point the home root directory at the DNN4 folder I get configuration errors on the DNN2 site.  It seems that the root home directory kills the application pool separation on the Web.config file.  If I set the root at the C:\Inetpub\wwwroot both subfolders work perfectly.  Hmmmmmmmm.  Could this be a bug/feature of IIS 6?

I have not been able to get the DNN 4.02 to function as a subdomain (test.mydomain.com).

Jeff


Trusmart Technologies Corp.
 
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4/3/2006 10:39 PM
 
are you creating an application for each folder?  are you setting the correct version of the ASP.NET runtime on each site?  what are the config errors?
 
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4/4/2006 11:14 AM
 

Yes, I have separate application pools for each. I have tested with ASP.NET 1.1 on the DNN 2.X site and ASP 2.0 on the DNN 4.02 site.  What I have found is ASP 2.0 seems to be backward compatable.  No confirmation, but I get the same behaviors weather I have the DNN 2 site running under either version of ASP (I think that is a good thing).  Most common error is:

Server Error in '/DotNetNuke4' Application.: Section or group name 'data' is already defined. Updates to this may only occur at the configuration level where it is defined.

Very similar error on the DNN 2 side if I point the "Default Web Site" home directory at the DNN 4 and run DNN 2 as a subfolder of that.  Trys to define "data" and can't from the DNN 2 web.config. Hope this all makes sense.  I think this is just one of those "you can't do that" things.  It just seems like it should work.  Seems more like a bug in IIS6 rather than DNN.

At this point I am abandoning the effort of having both sites online at the same time.  We are transfering over the content from the production server and will just do a hard cutover from DNN 2 to DNN 4 as soon as that is done (doctor: it hurts when I do that...then don't do that). 

Having some minor issues in 4.02 with pages and frames moving around in the menu but I think I can work through those.  I really like all the new feature.

 


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