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HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...ActiveModules Purchase - Is this a good or bad thing?ActiveModules Purchase - Is this a good or bad thing?
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3/2/2011 11:46 AM
 
I support their business model but not at the expense of those that contributed to their 'over xxx downloads, over xxx sites running dotnetnuke, over xxx users registered, etc."
 
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3/4/2011 5:21 PM
 
Lars Tungen wrote:

My worst nightmare would be a cheap closed source "light" version sold to thousands of hobbists with no support contract. Hords of them flooding the forums looking for scraps of info and screaming murder for their broken upgrades. What would that do to the brand? 

 
Um... isn't this what made the brand in the first place?


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3/4/2011 7:06 PM
 
What I really care is about losing my enterprise features because of this merger. I have paid premium $ for these features and I will be upset if I lose them.
 
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3/4/2011 9:12 PM
 
My worst nightmare would be a cheap closed source "light" version sold to thousands of hobbists with no support contract. Hords of them flooding the forums looking for scraps of info and screaming murder for their broken upgrades.

There's a lot of paying hobbyists that have contributed considerable time to the development of the AM products, and have helped the AM team in the road to success for their modules in more than one way or another.

Whether it be beta testing, reporting issues, enhancements, or sharing with the AM community our successes and strategies to further extend the product to what it has now become. Will and his team have indeed been the developers of the product, but the AM community and it's hobbyists have played a very important role to it's success. I'm one of those hobbyists.

I suspect, once AM is integrated into the core, regardless if a "light" version is created or not, there will be hobbyists that will be migrating back to DNN from AM. However the critical issue of concern is how much of a role will the DNN Community outside PE/Ent have in the further progression of features added to DNN from the AM products.

I've always found DNN to be more of Q&A rather than collaboration and sharing. Thus my low post count. But you can find me on AM, Ventrian, and other DNN places where I'm regularly active and eager to share (all sites I pay for subscriptions and modules).

With the acquisition of AM, this is something I hope DNN tries to improve upon. I think with the aid of AM, this type of collaboration may start to bloom here at DNN in a way that has not been seen.

Still, as an AM customer, I'm hopeful and optimistic, but very very skeptical and cautious until I see how it gets played out. Not everyone is going to be winners in this deal, and there are those of us that will have to adjust and take the hit and make the best of it.

Hobbyists are a great asset to the community hands down. We just don't have $2000 per year to fork over.
 
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3/5/2011 5:59 AM
 
Jeff Blanks wrote:
Hobbyists are a great asset to the community hands down. We just don't have $2000 per year to fork over.

 
The community is not the victim of this deal. If there are any victims, it's the customers of ActiveModules who are depending on the enterprise features that will end up as a part of the proprietary DNN PE product. DNN PE is not aimed at hobbyists. ActiveModules products have never been a community effort. Neither has the proprietary parts of DNN PE. Everything that the community has contributed is available for download from Codeplex. With this deal, the CE code base will expand. Hobbyist will gain a decent forum extension for their sites. And the most advanced features are kept outside the core and core extensions. Thats a good thing. Many see DNN as a development framework or a just a good CMS that runs on Windows. Sometimes less is more.   

Closing down the CE product and dumping the price on PE is not the right solultion. This ActiveModules deal have exposed the risks involved when depending on proprietary products. Your contract gives you security for 1-2 years. When it ends, you will need renew and agree to whatever additional terms or pricing model the vendor has decided to put forth since the last time. Or, as in this case, find a new solution for your needs. A low price closed source DNN will pose exactly the same risks. Another payment plan is not going to solve your problems in the long term.  

Hobbyists craving for enterprise features they can't afford is just one group within the much larger community. There are hundeds of thousands of stakeholders in this community, and maybe just as many reasons for being here. The most valuable asset for all of us is the open source license. It provides security for what ever investments you make, be it your own time or your money.

DNN is a complex and powerful beast. Selling it as a shrink wrapped product and keeping the customers happy is not an easy task. Disaster may be just one click away. The corporation have managed to pull it off with their current price tag. Trying to accomplish the same thing with a 1/10th of the price will be hard. And they would lose the community over night.

 
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