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9/16/2005 12:04 AM
 

Dear Forum Team,

I tried to localize the new version. Unfortunately I encountered a "few" issues:

General

-          Help Texts still contains references to Blog.

-          Forum list accessible via top left icon does not get refreshed

-          Many keys for action commands, buttons, …,  are used many times and should be assembled in SharedResources.resx

 

Forum_BadWordEdit.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

 

Forum_Container.ascx

-          duplicate keys ForumHome.Text

-          duplicate keys MyPosts.Text

-          Buttons for “my Settings” and “my Posts” are too small for translated words.

-          Forum List does not use altered Forum/Group Names and “Forums” needs to bee translated

 

 

Forum_Edit.ascx

-          Help text is not appropriate

-          multiple empty keys

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          missing translation: DropDown values for ddlForumType „notification“ and „normal“

-          obviously unused keys:          plImport.Help plImport.Text,
                                               plIntegrated.Help, plIntegrated.Text
                                               plModules.Help,
plModules.Text

-          other keys (about NNTP-Server etc) not used – Rubbish or for future extension?

-          missing translation for alt-Texts on icons “Add Remove…” and “Remove…”
By the way: Why do we need “remove…”, icon and alt text have not same meaning

-          “Forum Type” is neither obvious nor anywhere described. Does it only allow disabling moderator notification for moderated forums?

 

Forum_Manage.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          btnCloseGroup.AlternateText misspelling “collapse group…”

-          use “back” instead of “cancel”

-          Not an intuitive UI for adding a Forums group! Easiest would be to add a command button “add grop”, that collapses the current group and exposes Name field.

-          Many keys (about NNTP-Server. ForumHome.text, etc) not used.

 

Forum_ModuleSettings.ascx

-          Empty key chkEnableFooter.Text

-          Help Text needs to be rewritten.

-          Show footer setting should be moved to configuration

 

Forum_PostDelete.ascx

-          MANY empty keys

 

Forum_PostEdit.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          multiple empty keys

-          unnecessary key of lblModerate.Help

-          unnecessary keys for Attachments?

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Forum_PostModerate.ascx

-          Duplicate Key lblMessage.Help

-          multiple empty keys

-          multiple keys, that seems unused (lblAuditTitle.Text, lblAuditTitle.Help)

 

Forum_PostSearch.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          missing translation for alt-Texts on icons “Add Remove…” and “Remove…”

-          missing translation for “none specified”

 

Forum_Settings.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          unnecessary Items “Add Blog”

-          unnecessary Items “plEnableMaster”, plSourceDirectory

-          misspelling in “plSkin.Help”

-          misspelling in plRSSFeeds.Text

 

Forum_ThreadMove.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          unnecessary Items “Add Blog”, “BlogHome”

-          multiple empty keys

-          missing translation for alt-Texts on icons “Add Remove…” and “Remove…”

 

Forum_UserManage.ascx

-          missing “back” command

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          missing translation for “all”

-          missing translation for alt-Texts on icon “edit”

-          multiple empty keys

-          missing translation for “records on page”

Forum_UserProfile.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          multiple empty keys

-          Statistics not translated

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Forum_UserSettings.ascx

-          missing translation: ctlHeader (needs to be done in code)

-          unnecessary Items “Add Blog”

-          missing translation for “none specified”

-          missing translation for alt-Texts on icons “Add Remove…” and “Remove…”

-          plUserName.Help: States, that user name can be edited

 


I finished the translation so far, but will not publish it, before the number of issues has decreased significant. I would be pleased to get information from team about time frame for next version.

 

Sebastian Leupold

 

PS: who sent the whole Q&A sub-team on vacation?


Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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9/16/2005 4:18 PM
 

Please post in the proper area.  The forum move on here is screwed up so there is nothing i can do to move it.  As for information, i have constantly kept the community informed via a number of forums and through my blog.  I have also stated in the proper forums that there will be no more announcing of release dates because nobody is every nice about it.  Please refer to that post and my project blog to get an idea when things are moving along.

As for your localization items, thanks for the effort.  One thing you must understand is all those blank items that start with chk are on purpose.  This allows users to put someting on the checkbox as well if they wish.  That is not a mistake.  The blog stuff, i totally forgot about removing prior to release. 


Chris Paterra

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9/18/2005 10:38 AM
 

Chris, thanks for your reply,

Crispy wrote

Please post in the proper area.  The forum move on here is screwed up so there is nothing i can do to move it.

Sorry for this. Due to the number of issues, trying the translation was very hard and took the whole night until about 7 in the morning, so I must have been too tired to click the right line.

Crispy wrote

As for information, i have constantly kept the community informed via a number of forums and through my blog.  I have also stated in the proper forums that there will be no more announcing of release dates because nobody is every nice about it.  Please refer to that post and my project blog to get an idea when things are moving along.

I will contact you by email, so we can find a proper solution, that allows localization with an reasonably effort.

Crispy wrote
One thing you must understand is all those blank items that start with chk are on purpose. This allows users to put someting on the checkbox as well if they wish. That is not a mistake. 

Sorry, but I do not see any advance in this. Help is assigned via the associated label - where is the need for another text? Module author shall provide help texts, that can be translated or overridden - that's it. If the translator or admin needs additional help texts, this indicates, that there is a lack of usablility or missing of help texts - for all installations, so the module needs to be re-designed or its help completed. I would like to discuss this together with the help team and the localization team.

Sorry for that rude criticisms, that was caused by the fact, that the process of localizing this module was, due to the number of errors, the hardest localization tasks, I encountered in my DNN commitment so far.

Sebastian


Cheers from Germany,
Sebastian Leupold

dnnWerk - The DotNetNuke Experts   German Spoken DotNetNuke User Group

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9/18/2005 1:25 PM
 

The last thing I ever intend to do is cause more work for others.  I have probably spent more time on this module over the last six months than most people spend on a module they have been selling on snowcovered for over a year.  I think the time I must dedicate to this module is definiately decreasing.  I need to hear feedback like this to improve things so you or myself never have to spend time on them again. 

If you want to reach me via email, christopher.paterra AT this domain is the best way.  Since you have a list comprised I assume, I think we could knock something like this out in a solid day of effort or less.  I haven't seen too many bugs w/ the module but I have been thinking of fast tracking a patch type release as the .05 version.  Something like this would be important in a patch release along w/ bugs.  My personal commitment to the module is to try and make it the best forum module for dotnetnuke but I need help from all of you, like Sebastian.

 

 


Chris Paterra

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