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5/24/2010 4:22 PM
 
>I sincerely hope they go bust. It would be a service to humanity.

They are certainly going the right way about it!

BTW - that last post showed in these forums as "Page 5 of 4" ;-)

Cheers, Rob.
 
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5/24/2010 10:23 PM
 
Hi All,
I thought you might be interested in getting the perspective of this from another webhoster.

As many of you know, I am one of the original founders of PowerDNN and am still involved in the day-to-day operations of PowerDNN.  Over the past year, I've gotten much more involved in the hosting world and have learned quite a bit about the industry works.  What I've found most interesting is how "experts" view the hosting industry and, unfortunately, it isn't always pretty.  For the benefit of everyone in the community, if you are on a hosting provider that is doing one of the things below, you should seriously consider changing providers as soon as possible.

1)  If your hosting company is doing a control-panel migration, get out while you still can!
Hosting companies run on control panel software and, while there are more than a dozen well-known control panel vendors, they all do things differently and have different feature sets.  With many control panel vendors, it is hard enough to upgrade from one version of their software to another, let alone, a completely different system.  I firmly believe that it is impossible to successfully do a control panel migration.

2)  If you're on a discount hosting provider, beware!
I was out at a hosting convention a few months ago and I had the opportunity to talk with a number of webhosting CEOs and CTOs.  During one of the sessions, one of the questions that came up was "What do you do when a customer's website is down?" and alarmingly, a large number of companies said that they don't care if a customer's website goes down.  Why didn't the care?  Because their customers were paying $5-$10/mo and they were paying their employees $20+/hr.  If a customer's website went down, it truly wasn't worth their time to get their customers' websites back up - especially if the customer had paid for a year in advance (which many hosting companies require - btw - PowerDNN has monthly plans because we want our customers to be able to keep us on our toes).

3)  If your hosting company has been sold to a private equity fund or investment group, watch out!
These groups are extremely ruthless (especially in the hosting industry) and don't care about end-users at all - everything and everyone is either a financial asset or liability.  They make their money by buying a company, slashing its staff, making the financial records "prettier", and then selling it off to someone else.  A few months ago at a conference, I met an individual whose company specializes in hosting company acquisitions and he was bragging about the fact that they lost 10% of their customers since they were able to lay off half of their acquired company's employees.  Unfortunately I haven't kept in contact with this person, but I'm quite curious to know who (if anyone) is answering their customers' support tickets.  I don't think there is any way you can lay off half of a company's staff and it have a positive impact on customers.

Even though we are a hosting provider, and we do participate in the global hosting community, I really dislike how "transaction oriented" the major players in the hosting industry have become.  When you are selecting a hosting provider, make sure you are selecting one that aligns with your needs.  There are plenty of hosting companies out there where customers are "just a transaction" and that is perfectly ok, but be aware that next time you're choosing a hosting provider, you are also choosing whether you want to be just a transaction or a real person.


 
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6/1/2010 5:01 PM
 
Trust me when I say I rarely make good decisions quickly, but this was one of them. :) I was with WH4L for about 4 years. I gave them 24 hours to fix the problems and they didn't even come close. The best part was they restored versions of SQL Server databases that were 10 days old and didn't seem too concerned about it. The next day I had my sites back up and databases restored on Arvixe. I wrote up the gory details if you are interested.

As a side note, I always thought my code needed some optimizing, but it appeared WH4L had something to do with it, I noticed dramatic speed improvements when I changed hosts.
 
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6/9/2010 2:38 PM
 
I'm a victim too.  There I was, minding my own business, logged onto my Adsense account and ... £1 earnt all day. Uh-ho... so I checked first "is the site there?" No.  Next: "did I pay my bill?" Yes.

So, onto support.  You've been migrated.  I didn't know I was going to be migrated!  So I was patient.  "DNS" I thought, could be a day or so, they tell me they can see it, it's just I can't.

Well, since then, it's now been over 5 days and I've not managed to load it.  Google Adsense stats are showing me that somebody can see it, but about 1/12th of my traffic.  And I am completely stuck.  They don't really care.  Don't care at all. 

I want to move the site over, to a new, reliable host.  Thing is, if I get it moved, how responsive will they be to releasing the domain name.

Anybody got any costs/timescales/answers to this? 
 
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6/9/2010 9:04 PM
 
Nearly 6 days my site's been down. It provides me with a meagre income (my sole income) and now I am down to earning just $5/day. :( Stats show me that I am getting about 80 visitors/day, instead of the 1000 I used to get. I've been onto support, useless. I've got a ticket running, no feedback. There's just no information from Webhost4life about what is going on, why, what they are doing about it, or timescales. I need to find a way to get through this ... and out the other side. I want to move hosts now, but as I am not a techie/programmer, I am not au fait with DNN/IIS/hosting, I'm at a loss as to where to start. Finding/hiring somebody to migrate me from WH4L to a new host is scarey and something I'd have loved to have done in the past few years if only I had the confidence to find/choose somebody to do it.
 
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