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8/22/2013 7:46 PM
 

No body is asking Evoq Social or Evoq Content for free. The biggest gripe is (and every body misses the point, especially DNN Corp.) is that DNN Corp acquires the best modules out there, takes them off market and offers them only to its Evoq Social customers. If they have created Evoq Social without acquiring ActiveModule then it was a different story. 

The customers who bought these modules, based their entire website around these modules are left stranded because their is no future support or new enhancements coming. Also, they make sure that upgrading DNN will break these modules(?).  People who worked years to create and build these websites are left with no choice but to upgrade/lose the modules/look for other solutions. All these years of work go to waste. 

This is a douche baggy move but I wont say it because I will be banned or reprimanded for saying that (mind your language while we don't mind out business eithics). So no, I am not saying that but it does suck. Honestly, I won't even blame DNN Corp. for doing that. They are in business to make money and they have to appease their greedy investors plus we were never DNN Corp.'s customers. However, the owners who sell their modules to DNN Corp. without protecting their existing customer base's interest are unethical. 
Moreover, DNN Corp refuses that they are in module business. They just sell "solutions." Evoq Social is not bunch of modules integrated together. No, Sir. It's a solution.  I mean, who does that? Who say's stuff like that? Either they think community is full of idiots or I think they are just ....... not going to say it.  
Please please stop telling us that all of ActiveSocial was incorporated in DNNPlatform.  I can at least list 25 features that are not in the platform that we paid for as customers of ActiveModules.  Please stop telling us that by making ActiveForum a open source you did us a favor cause have you seen the progress in the last 2 years? There is a reason Module Vendors are in business cause 90% of the community cant do Jack S%^& with the source code. I am sure you know that but no ride on that high horse and feel better about yourself and feel generous. That will last. 
Basically, ActiveModules screwed its customers by selling its module to DNN Corp. and later  DNN Corp. made sure that the ActiveModule customers stay screwed. So many ActiveModules' loyal customer's websites went offline. So many loyal ActiveModules' customers' are looking for another solutions. All because someone got greedy and decided to not care about the people who paid (for years) to get these modules. Nobody cared about years of loyalty. Where are the morals? If you can sellout once you can sellout every time. 
Great community leadership there, DNN Corp. We should all trust and believe in you. 

 
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8/22/2013 8:42 PM
 
I could probably forgive all of these misjudgments and chalk it up to poor management if:

-DNN quit sandbagging community developments
-Provided an offering that was reasonable for small businesses.

It's 2013. Small businesses need an entire web ecosystem that includes a robust CMS, robust ecommerce and a decent forum at a minimum.

The current offering of $3000 for essentially nothing and $12,000 for less than robust ecommerce and a less than robust forum isn't going to cut it.

Surely there is a way for DNN to embrace and monetize the small businesses that built this community, made all of these modules available and therefore made DNN THE choice over more stable solutions like SiteFinity over the years. Without such a community and module ecosystem (the actual reason why people pick DNN), DNN will become just another SiteFinity.

I've been looking at other CMS systems and the possibility of integrating nopCommerce and YAF forums. In my opinion, these lead the way in their respective categories, are free, and if integrated with something like SiteFinity, will eat DNN's lunch. Moreover, they could perhaps be integrated with Umbraco or C1 and result in a combined free solution that is far superior from an ecommerce and forum perspective.

I think if DNN would offer a reasonably priced small business package that included a reasonable forum, I would probably deal with Catalook and stick around.

Think about it DNN. It might be smarter to make money than enemies.
 
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8/23/2013 1:58 AM
 
Well, if so many people are so negative about things going on here I think I will have to look for another solution and abandon DNN.
 
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8/23/2013 2:36 AM
 

This is from another ActiveModules customer. I hope the customer doesn't mind that I am posting this here. I have not identified the customer.

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I tried to stay alive with my progress through the acquisition of AM, but the lack of support going to any of the AM modules and it's customer base by DNN Corp really turned me off to the use of the platform anymore.

Especially AF. I just couldn't believe so much dev time and effort was put into such a module only to have it turned over to volunteers. Volunteers are a good thing but the Corp should have provided a good migration path and a good Forum module to so many paying users before turning it over to codeplex.

That, and also Corp getting iFinity. They keep saying the functionality is baked into CE (platform). That's fine and dandy, but it takes time for a module developer to make a quality module to put in the DNN store. In which, I didn't want to wait.

So........since I never really got my site off the ground, it's been in limbo and I've been keeping up with what is going on with the community and silently listening.

I feel my time, effort and money has been wasted and I made a decision not to go forward putting good money after bad with promise after promise being broken.

I still get back to it from time to time on my dev machine but it just doesn't seem a lot of the functionality is there and it's been downgraded. Maybe it's just me. In the meantime, I've picked up some projects using wordpress and learning another CMS.

I still love DNN (the community) and still want to get back to it, but I just don't see it happening soon.

Best of luck to you and your future!

Oh! and it looks like you may have missed this post, I didn't see you chime in yet lol..........

http://www.dnnsoftware.com/forums/forumid/118/threadid/489072/scope/posts/threadpage/1

 
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8/23/2013 3:26 AM
 

If you're in the the website business for the lang haul it's incredibly stupid to implement your site with proprietary software. Using the ActiveSocial modules was dangerous from day one. Each passing day you run the risk of the software disappearing or changing into something you don't want. Evoq social has the same risks.  Learn the lesson or make the same mistake again. 

 
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