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HomeHomeOur CommunityOur CommunityGeneral Discuss...General Discuss...ActiveModules Purchase - Is this a good or bad thing?ActiveModules Purchase - Is this a good or bad thing?
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2/23/2011 8:54 PM
 
One of the things that get's me very excited about this ( and there are several things ) is the integration of Active Social capability into the DotNetNuke core.  It won't be apparent how valuable this is to end users overnight... but it should not be difficult to understand why this is forward thinking.

To date, it has been the responsibility of every individual developer to build, deliver and maintain separate solutions for any bits of social functionality.  One of the reasons why Active Modules had become successful was they applied a LOT of effort to create social underpinnings that could be leveraged so that multiple complimentary components could be created.  But many of the AM features weren't designed with the intent of having a public interface.

By implementing Active Social services as a public API in the core means it will be possible for EVERY developer (commercial, private and open source) to utilized them in their applications.  This has the potential to greatly multiply the value of both existing AM clients and all future users of DotNetNuke!  So not only will the market have access to social features AM was able to deliver, but it will now be possible for the rest of the vendor and forge community to contribute their creativity and vision as well!

Social Web Content Management is in its infancy... and we are committed to making sure that DotNetNuke (from Community Edition to Enterprise Edition) is on the leading edge of this emerging category.  Getting Active Social functionality into the DotNetNuke core is the functional equivalent of jumping to hyperspace!

Scott Willhite, Co-Founder DNN

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly... what is essential is invisible to the eye. "
~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

 
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2/23/2011 10:43 PM
 
It strikes me that this isn't necessarily a long-term good for either current AM customers or the community. I think it's good that more social networking components will end up in the core, hopefully with a consistent and integrated UI... we'll have to see how successful that integration actually is.

But it's of some concern that for at least some customers, it represents a dramatic price hike for a useful bit of functionality, effectively putting it out of reach. That creates an opportunity for some other module developer, of course, who could build something like AF and the Mail Connector for less, or alternative social networking modules with support for a similar amount to what Active Modules was charging... but that just leads to more fragmentation, and in the wake of this deal, concern over the next acquisition target that might also upset our plans. And that may be a problem for the entire community.

This is probably a good business deal for Will and it's his IP so there is no sense knocking him for it; business is business. It raises a real concern about the DNN ecosystem for what I suspect are its largest constituents, the smallish and not wildly profitable site owners relying on the Community edition to bootstrap or run a hobby site. There is just no intermediate tier of DNN support or a la carte features available that make sense for those of us in that niche. Module options like those provided by Active Modules helped bridge that gap; but if they are going to be eliminated by deals like this, without any corresponding adjustments to the DNN offerings and pricing model, it makes DNN a lot less attractive compared to other CMS offerings out there now.
 
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2/24/2011 12:49 AM
 
Very well written, Wilson. I think the next move for DNN is to acquire Ventrian Modules and make those available exclusively for Pro. and Ent. version. Then Datasprings and then BizModules. So in the end, we will have no choice but to buy their paid versions. I wish I knew programming.
 
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2/24/2011 1:25 PM
 
1. This forum isn't only for developers. If I had the time, I would have already written my own AS. People ares willing to pay small amounts to keep a good product. DotNetNuke doesn't understand that. Their policy is let's charge high amounts and we only need a few to pay it. Ouch for 80% for us.

2. AM updates their modules very, very, VERY frequently. Care to look at how often the core modules are updated? Most not even in the last 12 months. I'd like to see how you handle the existing modules before you buy up modules that have a good reputation in the market.

3. Will you update/enhance, AF and AS as often as AM does currently?

Side note for those discussing $2k/year. Not only expensive but nuts. It's per DNN install.
 
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2/24/2011 2:44 PM
 
Frozen DNN wrote:
First of all, only a part of AF is going open source not all. Active Forum's main feature, the mail connector, that makes it unique is not going open source. 

 
Mail connector is a nice feature for some, but I'd hardly consider it the "main" feature...  Maybe for you.   Certainly not for me.

 
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