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3/14/2009 8:00 AM
 

Take the same approach as the PE version - stay one version behind. I am not too sure if that is a major version or minor version - the roadmap for 2009 is not on the site as yet. We have been told that v4.9.2 is the framework for the PE version - will that increase to 4.9.3 ? or will it go direct to V5.1.?

This is where it may back fire - if every one stays on the PE version then real time testing of the next version is going to be about nill

 

 
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3/14/2009 2:24 PM
 

I just thought I would throw my opinion out there for what its worth. I saw these same concerns, with the versioning, when they moved from 3.x to 4.x. The issues were present then. The 4.x track was not a solid platform until 4.3. I ran some early 4.x sites when it first came out and they were buggy and hard to upgrade, which is the same arguments people have now about 5.x. Yes 5.x is new, its the future, it will take some time to stabalize but they are making some pretty large changes that will take some time to flesh out.

Personally, I wont install a production 5.x site, even DNN says wait for 5.1. 5.0.1 was better, but its not quite there. I go back to 4.x, it was the same thing.

Someone asked if there will be a 4.9.3. The word I have read on all sites is that 4.9.2 is the final release of the 4.x track. See here All resources are now being pout into 5.x. What we have is sort of the same effect we had when Vista came out. XP was around so long that people take thing for granted. Lets not forget, the 4.x track was around for 3 years before 5.x came out. People grow accustomed to one platform and change is not always taken well.

I am not trying to deny that 5.x has no issues, all I am saying is give it time, dont upgrade just to upgrade and eventually 5.x will be the platform of choice and in a few years, we will be having this discussion about version 6.x and how the DNN teamed rushed it to market.

Jerel

 
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3/14/2009 2:34 PM
 

Major version changes are always majorly disruptive.  DNN 3.x took 12 minor version released before it was generally considered to be solid (3.0.12).  DNN 4.x (for ASP.Net 2) took 9 releases (to reach 4.03.7).  DNN 5.x represents another very major evolutionary step in the platform and it's not surprising that it's taking some shaking out.  For comparison sake, however... it might be worthy to note how many iterations this takes for v5.  Right now we're on the second... and anticipating the 3rd to be the one that makes 5.x solid.  12 -> 9 -> 3... seems like a pretty good trend?

Having said that, it's also been less than 4 months since we partnered with Sierra Ventures & August Capital to build a professional organization around DotNetNuke.   Planning, staffing, process improvement, etc. take a little while to show up in product delivery... but we believe these positive changes are going to become much more visible pretty darn quick.

We appreciate your continued patronage as DotNetNuke keeps getting better and better.

Cheers


Scott Willhite, Co-Founder DNN

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly... what is essential is invisible to the eye. "
~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

 
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3/14/2009 6:06 PM
 

Sorry, Scott, but I disagree with your counting. DNN 3.0.0 - 3.0.12 had been beta releases for members of the developer's program only, who tried their best to provide testing results. The first public version of DNN 3 was 3.0.13 and sub-subsequent DNN 3.1.1 was one of the most stable releases in DNN history, IMHO. DNN 4 was a port to ASP.Net 2.0 and got stable very quick as well, there had been a hassle with some of the basic new features in DNN 3.3 (membership, file sync) which caused a few fixes, but this had been handled very well (kudos to the team -  this happened before I got a CT member). This just demonstrates that there is not such a learning curve, as simple deducable from numbers. 

Let's face the issues with DNN 5: there had been a number of internal betas and public release candidates. In fact, public contribution on testing and issues reported had been very few, which finally lead into a public release. Due to a number of issues reported, especially Charles has worked hard to fix as much as possible to provide the community with an improved version. Please be aware, even though the end user improvements of DNN 5.0 are few, there had been some fundamental features rewritten, like the improved permission model, which required more changes, than estimated in advanced, and showed up with some side-effects, which made it challenging to maintain binary compatibility in all interfaces. Kudos again for the development team, succeeding in this effort.

The team realized however, that there are improvements needed to provide a solid version of DNN 5 and therefore we are now heading towards DNN 5.1.0. If you encounter issues while testing DNN 5, please report it to the public issue tracker to help the team to make DNN 5 as rock solid as DNN 4.9.2. Thank you.


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Sebastian Leupold

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3/14/2009 6:24 PM
 

The documentation is still valid for version´3.x

 
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