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5/27/2015 2:56 PM
 

We are having issues on one of our sites that has both online forms and an online shopping cart. It's running DNN 07.03.04, Dynamic Forms 4.10.4 and Smith Cart 6.72.0. 

It started out sending all emails fine and then randomly started only sending some. There's not really a pattern as to why or when the submission notifications aren't being sent and it's happening with both the forms module and the shopping cart module.

We've spoken with both module developers and our server support team and no one can figure it out. We tried changing from emails, SMTP settings, etc. We also ran some tests with WireShark and this is what they found...

" What I can report is that the packet captures did not report any contact with our relay during either of the failures. During the successful test, I saw the login, data transfer, etc, which I would expect to see in communications with the relay. But no contact at all during the fails. What this tells me is that the issue isn't with the relay and I'm confident not with the server from a hardware/configuration perspective. However, there is likely an issue either with coding in core DNN or with the modules that are interacting with core DNN to complete the task of sending the email. "

So basically our support team has told us that it looks like something within the core code of DNN isn't functioning correctly but they aren't able to tell what.

Has anyone seen this before? Any ideas as to what's causing it or how we might be able to fix it? We have the WireShark data if that might be helpful and I have records of all we did while testing the site. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

 
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5/27/2015 4:03 PM
 
Do Emails semt out by any of the two modules and core Newsletter module fail occasionally?
Note that DNN core email queue is thread based, if the site gets recycled, existing mails in the queue will be lost.

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5/27/2015 4:12 PM
 
whilst the queue may be thread based, mails don't get lost as it's only after they are sent that they are updated to indicate their sent status. This allows the mail queue to be resilient to unexpected shutdowns/app recycles. In cases such as this the issue is often with the email server itself, I'd recommend you check its logs and particular any spam/junk folders

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5/27/2015 4:16 PM
 
We haven't tested the core newsletter module but on the forms and the shopping cart, they send out the majority of the time and fail at random occasions. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to when they end up failing. We can have a submission from one person on multiple forms on the same day and one will come through and one won't. Or it could be the same form, same person / same form different people / etc. - it's just completely random.

I should also mention that we'll have a few weeks where nothing will be missing and then a week or so where it gets bad again. The past two months, this has been the case towards the end of the month. Prior to that, we'd have some missing almost every day or couple days. But this month and last, it was good for a week or two and then the last week of the month, we'd some start to fail again. The orders/submissions are still logged - it's just that the emails aren't getting sent.

I haven't looked at site stats but in general the site sees more activity at the end of the month. It has tests that count for medical/nursing home/administrator credits and it seems like more individuals are purchasing and taking the tests at the end of the month.

We've tested multiple things in regards to the mail server. When the fails are happening, there's nothing from the site that is even logged as trying to contact the relay and the mail server. There's also nothing that I know of that would be causing the site to be recycled and affect the email queue.
 
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5/28/2015 6:04 AM
 
this sounds strange and you would Need to add some logging for each mail to be sent and when it is handed over to the SMTP Server - Cathal should be able to provide the proper steps.

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